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[–] [email protected] 384 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Wow, a hugely wealthy oligarchical capitalist facilitating the rise of fascism?

How completely unpredictable, with no historical precedent whatsoever!

Who could have possibly expected this?!

[–] [email protected] 68 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Certainly not Prescott Bush!

[–] [email protected] 92 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Man... that's one of the things that seems like a conspiracy theory to a great many people, but just actually is true.

Dude literally got caught doing massive amounts of money laundering for literal Nazis during WW2 and by all rights should have been convicted of treason.

Its like how most people don't know that IBM machines enabled the Germans to tabulate and keep track of the holocaust, that their machines spit out the UIDs that were tattooed onto the victims at the death camps....

... I think that 'War is a Racket' by Smedley Butler really needs to be added to the basic K-12 curriculum alongside 1984 and Brave New World...

But oh oops, the Republicans already destroyed our education systems, nevermind.

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 month ago (9 children)

How much money do these fuckers need before they are content enough to not rat fuck American democracy so they can eek out a few percent more on their billions?

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 month ago (1 children)

... The answer is infinity.

Capitalism requires constant growth, constant extraction, constant return in investment, constant tendency toward monopolies and wealth disparity until you end up with a neo feudalistic caste society.

You can either attempt to restrain and regulate the system, which we are currently doing a rather poor job of, overthrow the system, which is nigh impossible given the precarity of the average prole, or you can just watch as we head closer and closer to... some kind of hybrid of the handmaids tale and elysium.

... Or, maybe, escape to a slightly less insane foreign country, but you're gonna need a lot of money or a very lucrative skill set as an employee to do that as anything other than an illegal immigrant.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 month ago (5 children)

The motto of the Post is literally “Democracy dies in Darkness”, and it was adopted immediately after Trump was elected. It is deliberately positioned as pro-Democrat and anti Trump. I didn’t have a high esteem of Bezos, but I am still disappointed.

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[–] [email protected] 199 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Has this f*ing idiot never heard of the Streisand Effect? The fact that they broke a decades long tradition to do this makes a louder thump than their endorsement would have.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 month ago

Louder to people who know who they're voting for already

Quieter to people on the fence

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[–] [email protected] 163 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (10 children)

The Washington Post: "Democracy Dies in Darkness"

Bozos:

Turn the Light off, turn the light off.

I had to settle for the Jurassic Park GIF because I couldn't find the one of Homer Simpson using his gun to turn off the lights. If anyone has that GIF, please hook me up.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I know this isn’t intentional, but the broken image makes the comment 10x funnier.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

LOL. Task failed successfully!

I just re-linked the GIF to go through my image proxy (originally linked directly from yarn.io which usually works fine. Usually.). Did that help?

It's also weird that it's not showing the alt text. Figured that'd have at least come through.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

No shooting, but does this work? Homer gets a light bulb to the head

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago

Democracy Dies in Darkness

We just didn't realize this was a mission statement.

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[–] [email protected] 118 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 69 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Anyone with over 10 million dollars in wealth should be legally classified as a dragon and anyone stealing from their hoard shall not be punishable under the law.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

Not so fun fact: The absolute richest dragons in all of fantasy, excluding Smaug, only have a net worth of several hundred million dollars. A Red Elder Wyrm will have, on average, around 2.5-3 million gold pieces of wealth, with an absolute maximum of 5 million gold pieces. That means that the absolute greediest, and richest type of dragon, by far, only has between 100,000 to 500,000 oz worth of gold.

Smaug being the absolute outlier because he had somewhere between 5 to 10 billion dollars worth of gold.

Now if you are wondering why I'm making a big deal about this, it is because 500,000 oz of gold is only worth about 1.1 billion US dollars. But that is the absolute outlier of the greediest type of dragon that there is. Still only looking at Chaotic Evil Red Elder Wyrms, the average would only be about 3.5 million gold pieces, or a mere 350,000 oz of gold. That's only about $850,000,000 and that is just the most average of the absolute greediest manefestations of greed that our limited minds could imagine. Most dragons would be absolutely fine with between $1,000,000 to $10,000,000. The literal manefestations of greed don't need more than $10,000,000 according to every treasure table.

Those people that have more than 100 million dollars have already passed the greed alignment chart into Chaotic Evil. They are damn near caricatures of dragons at this point.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 month ago (3 children)

My favorite is always the Egyptian god deciding to save the equivalent of $10,000 usd every day and never spend a single penny of it back in 10,000 BC and they still don't have as much money as Jeff Bozos.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Maximum wealth law. Once you're worth more than 100 million, 100% of any new income goes to a designated fund for social programs.

100 million is enough money that there is still no real limit to how pampered your life can be, so there's no argument that the rule would hurt anyone.

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[–] [email protected] 117 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Rep. Ted Lieu, a Democrat from California, in his own tweet on the news wrote, “The first step towards fascism is when the free press cowers in fear.”

I don't know if this is the free press cowering, or the free press being bought out by rich people. Either way, it's some bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 month ago (7 children)

Private ownership of a news outlet breaks every definition of "free" in "free press".

A "free press" no longer exists.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Eh.. no? Most free press is privately owned. Just not by billionaires who influence the content.

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[–] [email protected] 85 points 1 month ago (6 children)

“The most consequential election in our country, a choice between Fascism and Democracy, and you sit out? Cowards. Unethical, fearful cowards,” wrote one reader.

Haha, yep.

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[–] [email protected] 83 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Oh man the first 3 words got me excited.

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[–] [email protected] 79 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Also, cancel your prime subscriptions you cowards!

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Anyone who’s still using Amazon and wants to keep democracy is drowning in cognitive dissonance. Amazon is a bigger threat to decent lives for non-millionaires than any single politician, even granting that Trump is a nightmare.

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[–] [email protected] 68 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sigh.

Canceled my subscription.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Just spoke to my parents. Uninterrupted subscribers since '73.

I called them right after canceling my own subscription and they'd already canceled theirs.

I hope Bezos is happy losing 51-year patrons of his paper.

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[–] [email protected] 63 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Bezos has tons of federal government contracts. When Trump was president last time he went after Amazon and others he disliked to get their contracts cancelled. Bezos is concerned that if Trump wins, Trump could fuck with his contracts.

That's the reason. It's fucked up and more evidence of why news media shouldn't be owned by fuckhead billionaires. Shameful day in WaPos history. Cowardice. Grovelling to placate Trump for the benefit of the paper 's owner.

Tin foil hat: I am somewhat concerned that our oligarch overlords seem to be hedging in a way that they think Trump might win.

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 month ago (5 children)
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[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This is that "liberal news media" that Republicans keep yammering on about.

The one that's owned by six corporations.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 month ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 month ago (5 children)

If Kamala really wanted to get back at Bezos for this, the best thing she could do is promote union membership in tech and in the press.

It has been Bezos' kryptonite for years, and while I hold zero hope that unions will grow in popularity in the US, having a president push for them might be enough to make big businesses shut up.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 month ago (2 children)

She shouldn't be "getting back" at people. That's Trump's MO, and a major part of the reason that makes him so unsuited for the role. She should do what's best for the country. So ultimately I agree she should be pushing for unions.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Well that subscription is cancelled

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 month ago (2 children)

tax them until they learn to mind their own business

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Jeff Bezos killed

Well this should be interesting.

Washington Post endorsement of Kamala Harris, paper reports

Oh, nevermind.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 month ago (8 children)

There should be a law for owners of media being kept at arm's length.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 month ago (5 children)
[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 month ago (4 children)

If only wish luthor would fight temu iron Man

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 month ago (7 children)

Free press in the USA? LOL, it becomes more and more difficult every time a US oligarch buys a news outlet.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 month ago (1 children)

for years tech bros has been framed as liberal/leftist/team blue supporter. but after years of musk shitposting bullshit and almost not even single one called him out, more and more i have a feeling that they ALL are just magas hiding in the closets, they are not allies at all.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

They're mostly self-styled "libertarians", which means they haven't thought anything through, think they know better than all the country's institutions, and just want to be allowed to do whatever they want without consequences. This makes them natural allies of the MAGAs, even if they don't realize it.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago (8 children)

Everyone talking about billionaires and how they endorse, support, finance, fund, hold lotteries to influence an election and everyone still thinks they exist in a democracy.

It's an oligarchy or a plutocracy

Call it whatever you want ... but it certainly isn't a democracy

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