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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Parity rebuild will only take a week....

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

A week before next month

[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Obligatory hint that SMR isn't suited for RAID systems.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Tape on a platter, basically.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

A better way to word it is: SMR is only suited for archival usage. Large writes, little-to-no random writes.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Wonder what happens if you throw them in an unraid BTRFS/jbod configuration with a CMR parity drive.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago

Slowdown and data corruption?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

My 6TB drive just died. So I'm in the market for a new one.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 days ago (1 children)

sorry but these aren't 6TB

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Mebbe the 26 one is just 3-4 smaller drives inside it?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You joke but that's sorta how it works for some HDDs lol

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

I hope you think of having several platters, not real drives :-D

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

this is great news! I'm running low on space on my 20tb now.

[–] [email protected] 88 points 3 days ago (1 children)

My Jellyfin just quivered…

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I’ve been looking to buy a couple 24TB drives. Hopefully, this pushes their price down.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Peertube instance owners rejoice!

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Or just people who download porn.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 days ago (9 children)
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[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 days ago (5 children)

If you eyeballing these, please remind that these babies tend to be LOUD AS FUCK, so might not be suitable for home server use.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Just don't put it in your bedroom. All those dead skin cells wouldn't do good to it anyway.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Since when is dust a concern for hard drives??

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

I was talking about the server in general

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

Drives like this are hermetically sealed with an inert gas like argon or helium on the inside. Even the presence of oxygen and nitrogen molecules can compromise the drive. If dust is getting to the moving parts of your hard drive, it's toast no matter where it's installed.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (10 children)

Are they any louder than any HDD from the last 30 years?

If so, im actually curious why that is

Edit: fixed to say HDD not SSD

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

My NAS uses a pair of SAS drives, and they make noises at boot up that would be concerning in a desktop. They're quite obnoxious. But I keep them in part of the house where they don't bother me.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

When will it be commercially available though? Supposedly Seagate has had 30TB drives out for the better part of a year, but I can't find anything larger than 24TB actually available for purchase.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

I'd guess that they're commercially available but only for hyperscalers - large companies like Google, Amazon (AWS), etc that need a huge amount of storage.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 days ago (8 children)

Assuming that these have fairly impressive 100 MB/s sustained write speed, then it's going to take about 93 hours to write the whole contents of the disk - basically four days. That's a long time to replace a failed drive in a RAID array; you'd need to consider multiple disks of redundancy just in case another one fails while you're resilvering the first.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My 16TB ultrastars get upwards of 180MB/s sustained read and write, these will presumably be faster than that as the density is higher.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm guessing that only works if the file is smaller than the RAM cache of the drives. Transfer a file that's bigger than that, and it will go fast at first, but then fill the cache and the rate starts to drop closer to 100 MB/s.

My data hoarder drives are a pair of WD ultrastar 18TB SAS drives on RAID1, and that's how they tend to behave.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

This is for very long sustained writes, like 40TiB at a time. I can't say I've ever noticed any slowdown, but I'll keep a closer eye on it next time I do another huge copy. I've also never seen any kind of noticeable slowdown on my 4 8TB SATA WD golds, although they only get to about 150MB/s each.

EDIT: The effect would be obvious pretty fast at even moderate write speeds, I've never seen a drive with more than a GB of cache. My 16TB drives have 256MB, and the 8TB drives only 64MB of cache.

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