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Trump, 78, says ‘only stupid people put old’ people in top federal roles
(www.independent.co.uk)
only thing hes ever said with any truth to it
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Considering the previous two elections, Trump just called the majority of the country idiots.
"I love the uneducated!" - Donald John Trump
Even Trump can occasionally be right!
A broken clock is right twice a day; however, a broken cuckoo clock is still cuckoo all times of the day.
Biden wasn't that bad a choice. I would have preferred someone to the left of him, by a lot, but I can acknowledge that he's done an objectively good gob, all things considered.
That infrastructure bill is already righting the economy. I think it could go further, but these things take time. Even so, we're in a much better position today than 4 years ago. We could be better, but where we are isn't horrible for where we came from.
So yes, Biden has enacted policy competently. Overall a C+. Maybe even a B- but there are things I'm unhappy with.
Like his DoJ slow walking the Jan 6th prosecutions, and not being aggressive about them. I mean, it was an open conspiracy to overthrow the US government. That had the wife of a Supreme Court Justice involved, along with about a dozen former and current Republican lawmakers.
The sentencing hearings for all of them should have been held last year, and yet most of them haven't even been charged.
Then there are the genocides.... I can understand the ones where the US is not involved at all (beyond them being organized on Facebook, we should be doing something about that after all...) but the genocide in motion that the US is actively enabling... that shit needs to stop for Biden to get that coveted A.
Still miles better than Trump... And due to First Past the Post, that's the options we have. Come November 10th (for incumbents that win, Jan 10th for the newly elected) I'll be sending letters to my congressmen, and anyone else who's address I can find, talking about voting reform. Real voting reform, not the flawed RCV bullshit. But things like Approval and STAR.
Harris seems like the sort of person who will at least focus on the DoJ, so carrying on the Biden policies, and maybe a few tweaks of her own, she'd be in solid B- range. Maybe up to a B+ if she enacts some actual social policy. But no A until the Genocides stop, or at least is US stops enabling them.
Harris seems like the sort of person
That quote and the fact that she isn't Biden or Trump is her 90% of her campaign as of this moment. Feel free to link me her official platform otherwise.
Thank you for your grading scale breakdown. My own scale is quite different. "No A until the genocides stop" is an interesting viewpoint.
Also, this whole post kind of came out of left field. Perhaps, you meant to reply to my other post from yesterday?
Mostly it started as a Biden was old, and was a fairly good choice to follow Trump.
So Age need not be a disqualifier on its own...
After that, I started rambling a bit.
He forgot he's not 40.
He's not wrong.
The guy is so fucking delusional it isn't funny. He was always a dumbass even back in the 80s.
I used to see him on Entertainment Tonight and think "this guy is an idiot. How is he so rich?"
Inherited 400M invested in real estate and went bankrupt every time he really crapped out to avoid paying everyone. He still ended up worse off than an index fund until he became a reality TV star.
every accusation is a confession
Every accusation is a 40-minute impromptu concert to cover a dementia-addled man's sudden confusion by what all these people are doing in his house
Lol .... at this point they should just put him in a room full of about a hundred of his supporters and tell their leader that he is emperor of the United States. Then just feed them all AI generated CNN news broadcasts of his nation doing everything he wants. Let them all live like this until they die ..... none of them would probably notice the difference.
In the meantime, the rest of could go about our lives trying to save humanity on this planet.
I've seen this be called, "heavenbanning" — you are shadowbanned from a platform, but instead of just shouting into the void, the void caresses your ego with AI slop.
If you used them as batteries, this would be the beginnings of The Matrix. I wanna be Tank so I can die off-screen between storylines.
Yeah, I was also here for the Matrix with extra steps comment.
Well shit, we knew that
He's talking about how long young people will last on the supreme court. Still gross, but this article is click-baity and dumb with its premise.
Ok, imagine Joe Biden said it.
Imagine the histrionics.
Yeah, it's a bad look essentially saying you should only put young justices on the SCOTUS in order to control it for longer. However, that is not a dumb thing to say. It's logical if your goal is control, which his obviously is. It's why the lifetime appointments are so bad. It encourages putting young, less qualified justices on the court instead of older, potentially more qualified ones.
It would still be a dumb article.
The title is basically a blatant lie, easily shown to be deceptive simply by reading the article.
Yet look at this comments section and how many people have bought the deception hook, line, and sinker.
We shit on Republuicans for being idiots who support Trump, which is true, but it's almost like we are trying to out-stupid them.
it's almost like we are trying to out-stupid them.
Well I wouldn't go that far lol
It applies and should apply no less to the most powerful office and single person in the world
Especially since that person would probably love to remove the term limit so he can stay in power
No, it doesn't apply, at least not for the same logic. He didn't say that because the older people are less capable. He said it because a younger person will give you control for longer most likely. They're lifetime appointments, so the logical choice for maintaining control is to appoint healthy young people, not the most qualified people.
I follow the logic, but I would also argue if the chances are always higher of a sitting President to win the following term, the GOP would have been better off running anyone who had not already held office and can maintain control for a possible 8 years and not just 4? So he would be saying Republicans should have voted for Nicky Haley in the primaries.
Edit: Nah - I guess that is a bit different, because they could argue idiots already liked him, so he stood a better chance at getting back in and they didn't believe she could I guess
Yeah I'm not arguing that. But the point is different... He's talking about longevity, not acumen.
So now everyone is certain Trump would actually live through the whole term?
That was a loaded headline, since he was referring only to Supreme Court judges who get to stay in for as many decades as they'd like.
"loaded"? Lol. It's a blatant lie.
What an absolutely fucking ridiculous comparison...
I hate defending Trump, but this is the difference between LIFETIME appointments vs maybe 4 years, 8 tops for president... He's absolutely correct, you're an idiot if you choose an old person to be a judge for SCOTUS since you open up the possibility of them being replaced sooner...
In a world that isn't completely corrupted by partisan hacks we shouldn't care who ends up on the court, but because of billionaires we don't get to have that world...
BE BETTER MEDIA ASSHATS.
:/
I hate defending Trump, but
Then don't. You aren't obligated to defend him.
I disagree with his sentiment. Higher turn over on the Supreme Court is part of the proposed Supreme Court reform.
Defending him because "nuance" is stupid, he doesn't have any, why project it on him? What has he done to earn it? This is how narcissists maneuver -- people's eagerness to see their good side; it doesn't exist for the narcissists.
The problem is when misrepresentations run wild, the other side can highlight examples and say "see, the left is out there lying and twisting the obvious truth", and destroy the credibility of all the other material.
Like when Fox News would bash Obama for wearing a Tan suit or fist bumping someone. Any potential legitimate criticism they could relate is undermined by being a laughing stock over such stupid stuff.
With Obama, I suppose I could get it as a strategy because he didn't supply enough "juicy" material to be substantive, so they didn't have much alternative but to try to generate stupid outrage. With Trump, he is constantly blatantly showing maliciousness or incompetence, why bother undermining credibility by wasting time highlighting and trying to distort a rare occurrence of him not being incompetent?
The even bigger problem is holding ourselves to a higher standard than they do and setting the expectation that we will always do this while they've long ago lowered their standards that they never will.
This results in us wasting time and effort and leads to infighting for messaging that will never reach their side because they already dismissed the article, it is click bait for us not them.
So while we're over here pearl clutching over a random click bait article, they've already moved the conversation forward.
This is like that "sanewashing" thing. "What he means is this..." no. No need to do him any favors.
But it's not even that. He said what he meant and then the chucklefucks looking for clicks went on with the "BuT HeS oLd ToO! HuR dUr, HoW dUmB!" when it's not the same comparison at all.
I guess I'm just sick of all large media outlets lately.
I’m just happy to see users calling out these bullshit articles taking shit outta context. I don’t have a ton of time to read the news. So I prefer my brief overviews of titles to be factual and contextual to what the authors implying. Which it’s the independent so already knew it was probs bs.
I’m just happy to see users calling out these bullshit articles taking shit outta context.
But what bothers me is that even when the blatant deception is pointed out, you still have a large percentage of people here actually defending such bullshit.
Just because he's an asshole doesn't make what he said wrong. I'm more angry at "the media" for trying to make something out of nothing for clicks. Their comparison is stupid.
Then don’t. You aren’t obligated to defend him.
Really they are just defending honest assessments of facts. Unfortunately, because the title of the article is so disgustingly disingenuous and blatantly misleading, it led a lot of people to believe his statement is blatantly hypocritical. . .so by pointing out reality you are actually "defending Trump."
You are all but admitting that reality doesn't matter. Sounds exactly like Trump supporters. Please don't be like them.
Then what you want is term limits.
I don't like Trump, but I get his point. It's the same argument he makes about taxing the rich. Guess who has the power to fix that, too?
People in power rarely make laws to limit themselves.
"His point" makes it sound like he's thought about it. I guarantee you he has not. This is a talking point he was reminded of five minutes before the planted question was asked and he almost blew that.
Seriously, he's demented. His only thoughts revolve around him and his money - that's it.
Nothing ever good starts with
I hate defending trump
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