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Title basically. I want to know what are the differences and which is the best in terms of privacy. Also, F-Droid says that Fennec tracks your activity, is it true?

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Contrary to the top comment.

I got FF Beta>Fennec>Mull for my uses.

  • Mull is stuck at 60hz.
  • Fennec doesn't support hardware tokens to login to websites (Yubikey).

I know under the hood some privacy stuff is likely better but from a usability point of view, they're 2 big deal breakers for me.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

Resist Fingerprinting is a firefox feature that Mull enables. RFP is the cause of 60fps limit.

Mull strongly recommends you don't turn it off.

But you can. I use a toggle to fix certain websites that won't work otherwise. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/toggle-resist-fingerprinting/

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/rfp-toggle/

Mull has an additional caveat as of 2023-09-14 ; password managers whitelist browsers for autofill, and 1Password hasn't whitelisted Mull yet. Bitwarden does. Others: I don't know.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

TL;DR: Mull > Fennec > Firefox

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would prefer the longer version, if you don't mind sharing

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Okay, basically to keep things simple:

Mull is like LibreWolf on Desktop a hardened Firefox Version made by DivestOS with tweaks from arkenfox's user.js and more, is recommended by them to use it together with uBO.

Fennec is a slighly improved Version of Firefox, it has enchanced Tracker blocking and removes proprietary and telemetry stuff, but it still makes some connections to Mozilla and Google.

Firefox for Android is basically Firefox for Android, it includes some unnice stuff, like non opensource anti-privacy trackers and a bit more. It has basic protections, but isn't that powerful, still better than Google Chrome on Android.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

OK, I will try Mull instead!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, i know Fennec replaces Google with (i think its ddg by default). Otherwise i am not sure what it changes. I know Mull has even more privacy settings enabled by default.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As far as I remember, Fennec is a normal Firefox but without the telemetry, and that's it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

this is correct.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If you want to be strict about privacy, in F-Droid turn off all anti-features and you'll see there is no version of Firefox available to install. You have to make compromises if yo want to install any off-shoot of Firefox.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Iirc anti-features are autodetected from source code. So unused code is too. Also its not like chromium is better in terms of privacy.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Chromium is not an option and it never will be an option.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So what is your suggestion?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've settled on Navi doenloader that has a built-in browser for websites combined with AdAway

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's a Webview browser right?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have Webview disabled on both GrapheneOS and Android and Navi works without issue.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So what is it using for a browser engine? It's file size seems exactly like a webview and way too small for anything else.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I assume from whatever is natively built into it, independent of anything else since system apps are disabled.