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I know and can accept the response that say I should register to X site if I want more activity. I do plan to, least with Reddit, just biding some time before I make yet the 20th disposable e-mail and probably the 100th account before it gets banned again if I cross a glass person. Glass person being someone who's so fragile on opinions and things that they'll scream 'BAN THEM BAN THEM!'.

I've been on KBin Social, Lemmy World (least 2 dedicated accounts), KBin Run, Mastodon, Blue Sky .etc

And I'd stay for a good while but I also found myself bored immediately. I check for questions to answer, it's the same questions I've seen days and weeks prior. I check around for things that are reported and they'll be hours old and some of them can be years old.

I love the idea of the Fediverse, I like some of the features that are implemented. Especially when you do ask questions on here and you're allowed to expand on it. Unlike AskReddit for example, they don't really like that and will remove your post because explaining what your question is about and backing it with an example is just unacceptable to them.

I don't know. 43,000+ people sounds a lot on paper, but in practice, it feels like you're dealing with 50 people at any given day.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 12 hours ago

I do, yes, especially for niche communities. But other social networks aren't the answer. Go look at what Reddit has become, or Twitter, or Facebook. It's all junk. Half of it is AIs talking to AIs. There's almost no meaningful conversation taking place. At least here we occasionally get some good conversations, although those are rare outside of politics and Linux.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (10 children)

I just wish it had more diversity.
Everyone's a white 40-year-old born male Linux admin in here.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Hey! I'm a white 30-year-old born female Linux user, clearly Lemmy is burgeoning with diversity!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

I'm a 40-year-old white man? I had no idea

[–] [email protected] 3 points 12 hours ago

Congratulations. But being in your 20s is better. At least you get to be white I guess.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

There's plenty of diversity if you join boards focused on them, like LGBTQ communities. I think the defaults just lean excessively into the demographic you described.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

I only know the sex of one person on Lemmy, and she's not a man.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

It does. You aren't looking. I always feel a sense that I am talking to people from other parts of the world. Moreso than anywhere's else.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 hours ago

Yes, but also no.

More users would be great for the fediverse, in theory. Right now Lemmy (and Mastodon) can attribute a lot of their users to people unhappy with Reddit Inc. (or X) in some way. Throwing more unhappy people into the user base would probably not lead to good outcomes.

Personally I think Lemmy and Mastodon will never get the critical mass of users needed to maintain healthy communities because the only thing they have to offer is a less bad clone of an existing network.

X is bad because a malignant political demagogue is actively destroying what most people liked about Twitter. Reddit is bad because reddit inc. cares more about profit more than the needs of the user base. But the platforms they created and/or operate aren't designed with a federated model in mind.

If the fediverse is ever going to move out of the technically savvy, early adopter nerds phase I think it's only going to do that through something new and better than what already exists.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 12 hours ago

.world is no different than reddit so you shouldn't expect any improvement there.

for me the lemmyverse is better so far than reddit, x, or facebooks but that's because i spend most of mt time away from the diet reddit lemmyverse instances; maybe that'll work for you too.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 17 hours ago (6 children)

For me the biggest problem is not volume in general but volume of niche content. The best thing about Reddit was all the active, engaging communities that would sprawl around any niche subject you could imagine.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

You know, you actually hit the nail on the head in the context I had failed to articulate. Like yes the Fediverse does have some interesting communities, but they're communities we expect of the fediverse to have that everyone else has. But, it does not have a dedicated Nostalgia community, it does not have AbruptChaos or anything else. Just the basics.

And I think if more people took on tasks like running the communities while educating people the benefits of the fediverse, then we can see a bit more growth. Because the point of the matter is if people are desperate for a Reddit alternative, they're going to want to feel like they're home. If there's nothing here that's going to help make them feel that, then they're going to just stick to Reddit for better or worse.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 16 hours ago

But, it does not have a dedicated Nostalgia community, it does not have AbruptChaos or anything else. Just the basics.

There's only so many communities you can maintain active with 45k monthly active users

And I think if more people took on tasks like running the communities while educating people the benefits of the fediverse, then we can see a bit more growth.

Why do you think we don't?

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 18 hours ago

Use the site less frequently and you will discover more content each time you come. I kind of like how it moves slower.

Of course, I want the fediverse to grow to. If it ever moves to fast I can always block lemmy.world and be crazy with my fellow dorks on lemmy.ml

[–] [email protected] 3 points 13 hours ago

Speaking personally, while I am here, my participation in Lemmy is lacklustre at best; same with Mastodon. I got burnt out from social media and the years from 2016 - 2024 have really ruined my enthusiasm. I think maybe a lot are in the same boat. Maybe we'll see more people come out of the "shields up, dark times overload" in a year or so... and maybe it will take longer.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 18 hours ago

I wish there was more people on not-so-general communities.
If this means less meme or political posts, it would be for the best. However, more specific communities that are not part of a themed instance have very little activity. If I want to learn about ecology and its science, I know I can find many active communities on slrpnk.net, if I want content that matter to Germans, I can go it feddit.org, jlai.lu the same for Frenchs. But if I want people posting picture of nice looking sticks or find !foraging stories or connect with people doing [email protected] I know that I have to be patient and that's to bad 'cause if people spend less time commenting US election or some shower thoughts, some people will find time and fun interacting in these communities and many others.

[–] [email protected] 89 points 1 day ago (1 children)

For more diverse content I indeed wish, but you can't build a healthy social network with an explosion of members without the moderation and toolings required to handle such a wave.

I'd rather be there while the Fediverse grows organically and gather my info from multiple sources the old fashioned way.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago

Yeah. I feel like Lemmy doesn't have the tools needed to moderate a larger community outside of defederation.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Idk man, in actually seen here and not drowned out

Little a comment I make that doesn't have any interactions, I like that

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No.

I have actual internet friends here. People who, based solely on their efforts and words and interactions, align with my own beliefs and ideals and help me temper and adjust accordingly as time goes on. Adults. I'd happily stay like this or with more, similar people, growing slowly and legitimately.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 20 hours ago (5 children)

Agreed. The past year has been a great change from other social media personally. I was Reddit only for the prior 7 or so years and Lemmy feels like a time hop back to pre-dystopic Internet days. I approach it more like my favorite forums from the 90's-00's.

Less content and users are ok when it leads to more civil engagement's.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Same here. I find lemmy very relaxing. Multiple times a day I’ll see people admit they misunderstood and upvoting each other. It’s quite refreshing. Sure people still be people but. It feels like we care and aren’t throwing trash on the floor. Whereas Reddit everyone will wipe their ass on your nose.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I firmly believe that the reddit takeover was a part of the grand region destabilization plan to sew discord and resentment in our society by foreign powers. I caution that I am not unaware that it is exactly what or alphabet agencies have been doing to the rest of the world.

Communication among humans is the only defense. Cheers to you, friend! Thanks for contributing to the conversation.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 12 hours ago

So You Thought You Were Lying Low in a Space Forged by an Exodus from Society to Bury your Shoebox of Fake IDs but Nuance Defied Expectation, a Stone's Tale

[–] [email protected] 17 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

I worry sometimes that the reddit exodus brought mostly bellyachers.

The sheer boringness of these repeated questions about the size, growth, health of the fediverse.

Fuck metrics. Jesus, do you mot get it at all?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

If you think this question is being asked too much, go and sit at AskReddit sometime. Count the many, many times you will see questions like 'Why are you single?' or "What would you do if someone gave you a million dollars?' or similarly worded questions. They are posted by the hour, almost nonstop.

You get a question like mine like once in a few weeks or a month maybe. But you hadn't seen anything until you check out AskReddit.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

You are ... making my point.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 22 hours ago

Agreed! Seriously people this is not reddit. It does not have a bajillion users. Stop asking for it to have a billion users! This question has been asked So. Many. Times. I'm content with the amount of users here, of people want to invite more than invite more, but what is this post? "I have noticed that there are fewer users". Correct! Next question.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I used reddit for two things: news, and niche subcommunities around small hobbies and fandoms.

We've got the former here, but I don’t know if we'd ever have enough of a critical mass to sustain the latter. And that sucks for me, because I no longer have a good space for that stuff, but I still don't ever want to go back to reddit now.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 22 hours ago (5 children)

We do, people just have to put in the work. I run two niche communities. Satisfactory and Taylor Swift. Both take time to run and manage, I had to be the sole poster in both for a good long time before other people started jumping in and posting with me. Someone has to be willing to put themselves out there.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I kinda like the lack of content. I don't feel like I'm missing anything here. Mastodon is too busy.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 23 hours ago (11 children)

The largest Lemmy instance is the most boring, full of unfunny memes and the worst Redditor culture. What you want is high quality postrs, not simply more people!

As Lenin said: better fewer, but better.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

At this point I've blocked so many .world communities that I don't see that as much. There are some users who I notice bring the reddit antagonism and I tend to block them too. If I come across a post that is full of reddit quips I just block the whole community. I guess I've blocked fewer .ml communities overall.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 14 hours ago

Good on you! I bet that is actually working out great. I should try something similar with another account.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Yes and no.

Yes, I wish the fediverse would become more adopted by the general public because it will continues to improve.

No, because people are stupid assholes

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 day ago

I would say I miss some specific people or groups, both on Lemmy and on Mastodon, rather than generally "more" people. Friends of mine, certain people I used to follow on Twitter that haven't made the jump, some communities about specific hobbies, that sort of thing.

Overall, I enjoy the fact that I can get a rough idea about who is who instead of interacting with a mass of faceless strangers.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Yes, I still moderate a subreddit which is a support group for a particular surgery. There isn't such a community on the fediverse and the group of people who need this surgery seem to be few in number here too. (Won't be any more specific about the nature of the subreddit or surgery for privacy reasons, before anyone asks)

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

Since the vast majority of website users are minimally engaged, I would love for a few more active posters for stability of content and discussion, but not a massive influx of users just to have users.

I also don't want a plethora of users who get banned repeatedly for not being self aware that their behavior is the problem. The occasional crossed wires ban, no biggie, but thinking there are so many glass people that creating dozens of alts is necessary is not a good look.

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