this post was submitted on 05 Oct 2024
983 points (97.9% liked)

Science Memes

11426 readers
1571 users here now

Welcome to c/science_memes @ Mander.xyz!

A place for majestic STEMLORD peacocking, as well as memes about the realities of working in a lab.



Rules

  1. Don't throw mud. Behave like an intellectual and remember the human.
  2. Keep it rooted (on topic).
  3. No spam.
  4. Infographics welcome, get schooled.

This is a science community. We use the Dawkins definition of meme.



Research Committee

Other Mander Communities

Science and Research

Biology and Life Sciences

Physical Sciences

Humanities and Social Sciences

Practical and Applied Sciences

Memes

Miscellaneous

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 
top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 150 points 2 months ago (6 children)
[–] [email protected] 80 points 2 months ago

You see less AI generated fewer.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 months ago

You see less ai generated imagery

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago

Unless they meant that individual images had less AI generation in them.

(I'm with you, words matter)

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I gotta fewer

and the only rescription is

more bowcell

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (2 replies)
[–] [email protected] 140 points 2 months ago (4 children)

You notice AI generated images less

[–] [email protected] 83 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Ranier Wolfcastle in front of a brick wall saying "that's the joke."

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

"You suck McBain"

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago

Thank you. I should have gotten that.

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] [email protected] 136 points 2 months ago (9 children)

That's my issue with people saying stuff like "I can immediately tell when a picture is made with AI and I hate how they look"

Your assesment doesn't take into account all the false negatives. You have no idea how many pictures have tricked you already. By definition, the picture is badly made if you can immediately tell it's AI. That's a bit like seeing the most flamboyantly gay person on the street and thinking all gays look like that and you can always spot them while the closeted friend you're with flies perfectly under the radar.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

I didn't know it had a name. Thanks!

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I recently saw a photo on some website. It was from a Trump rally, and people had these freaky, ecstatic looks on their faces. Somebody commented that it looked like AI. Other people soon agreed; one of them remarked on the bizarre, "alien" hand on one of the babies in the crowd. That hand did look weird. There were too few fingers. It looked like a Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle hand.

The problem was that this image was originally from a news story that was years prior to ChatGPT and the current AI boom. For this to be AI, the photographer would've had to have access to experimental software that was years away from being released to the public.

Sometimes people just look weird and, sometimes, they have weird hands, too.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

While your point that sometimes people just have AI image associated traits is very salient, I worry you might not be considering the lengths these things will be used and why online discourse (in my worried opinion) is utterly fucked: The past ain't safe either.

For now we still have archive.org but without a third party/external source validating that old content...you can't be sure it's actually old content.

It's trivial to get LLMs to get image gen prompts done to "spice up those old news posts" at best (without remembering to tag the article edited/updated or bypassing that flag entirely)...and utterly fuck the very foundation of shared and accepted past reality not just presently but to anyone using the internet itself to look through the lens of the past at worst.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Reminds me of all the people who believe commercials and advertising doesn't work on them. Sure, that's why billions are spent on it. Because it doesn't even do anything. Oh it only works on all the other people?

That's why it is so hard to get that stuff regulated. People believe it doesn't work on them.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago

A more timely example is the people who think they can always tell when someone is trans.

load more comments (5 replies)
[–] [email protected] 61 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Plot twist: This image is AI generated.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 39 points 2 months ago (1 children)

you replied to an AI generated comment

[–] [email protected] 69 points 2 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 39 points 2 months ago (1 children)

iFunny and mematic watermark? You're bullshitting.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The only thing missing is a bad screenshot.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I've enworsened it for you!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

Let me save that for later.

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 55 points 2 months ago (6 children)

As a visually impaired person on the internet. YES! welcome to our world!

You're lucky enough to get an image description that helpfully describes the image.

That description rarely tells you if it's AI generated, that's if the description writer even knows themselves.

Everyone in the comments saying "look at the hands, that's AI generated", and I'm sitting here thinking, I just have to trust the discussion, because that image, just like every other image I've ever seen, is hard to fully decipher visually, let alone look for evidence of AI.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Alt text: a beautiful girl on a dock at sunset with some fugly hands and broken ass fingees

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Honestly, auto generating text descriptions for visually impaired people is probably one of the few potential good uses for LLM + CLIP. Being able to have a brief but accurate description without relying on some jackass to have written it is a bonefied good thing. It isn't even eliminating anyone's job since the jackass doesn't always do it in the first place.

load more comments (3 replies)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I've never seen a good answer to this in accessibility guides, would you mind making a recommendation? Is there any preferred alt text for something like:

  • "clarification image with an arrow pointing at object"
  • "Picture of a butt selfie, it's completely black"
  • "Picture of a table with nothing on it"
  • "example of lens flare shown from camera"
  • "N/A" dangerous

Sometimes an image is clearly only useful as a visual aid, I feel like "" (exluding it) makes people feel like they are missing the joke. But given it's an accessibility tool; unneeded details may waste your time.

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (4 replies)
[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Wish I had more upvotes to give.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

That stupid bit drilled less vs fewer into my head for the rest of my life.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 months ago (6 children)

People are freaking out because for years, the central dogma was to "educate yourself, that makes you special, that makes you unique, that guarantees you a prosperois economic future" and such, and now this promise is about to be broken. People are in denial: AI is a good thing.

[–] [email protected] 69 points 2 months ago (1 children)

People are in denial: AI is a good thing.

Not in our broken ass system. First we need an economic system where people want to, but don't need to work.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (4 children)

That better system looks more realistic now that we can have AI and robots do nearly everything. The artificial scarcity is becoming more and more obvious.

load more comments (4 replies)
[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

if you don't have a job, you don't get paid, so you lack basic things.

if robots just did everything, and necessities (food, water, heating, cooling, etc) were free, then that would be great. unfortunately, that's not the reality we live in right now, so of course plenty of people (including myself) don't like AI.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I agree 100% with this. Often arguments "against" AI summarize to "it is my suffering what gave my art value, so yours has none."

Bro, that's what capitalism told you. Your issue is not the "value" of AI it is the system that assigns and controls said value.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Often arguments "against" AI summarize to "it is my suffering what gave my art value, so yours has none."

I see it more as: "AI is being used to increase suffering and kneecap labor, especially forms of labor which are considered pleasant. In the process, nearly every cent surrounding LLMs replacing workers is getting redirected to the already wealthy."

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

So you mean AI is being used by Capitalism, the same way it uses everything else?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

As a tool to deprive the workers from the means of production, yeah.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)
load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

Oh great, instead of me, a machine owned by a capitalist will produce the art! /s

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

Well, it's good — if some of the profits of the increased productivity make it to the people who aren't billionaires or multimillionaires.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago
[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

obligatory meme generated by AI (flux 1.dev on my rtx 4070 super)

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago
[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (19 children)
load more comments (19 replies)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

One thing that happened is that I see AI spam farms less and less on some platforms, others are started to refusing to label theirs as such on art platforms like Pixiv, to have a wider reach (they get immediately blocked and mass reported by normal people).

load more comments
view more: next ›