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‘Morally indefensible’ – but George W Bush will not come out against Trump
(www.theguardian.com)
he is a fellow repuglican after all
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Hes in a special position. If trump did not exist he would be in the running for worst president.
Nah Regan's got that shit locked down. Trump wouldn't even have been possible without Regan.
hey man then you know there is the OG nixon.
Lol. Why are we still pretending to give a shit about W?
Him being informed of WTC attack did make a hell of a meme template. Maybe that.
Touché salesman. Touché.
Why did anyone ever think he was any good? The folksy paintings? The aw-shucks friendship with Michelle Obama?
This dipshit has the blood of millions on his hands. He gave us Alito. He destroyed as much of the administrative state as he could. His CIA daddy stole his election.
Can you imagine our world today if Gore had gotten in?
Fuck Cheney too, he only cares because Trump was mean to his shithead daughter.
Can you imagine our world today if Gore had gotten in?
It's not very well-remembered today that Clinton's administration ended with a budget surplus of hundreds of billions of dollars or that Gore was by far the most prominent voice in the world sounding the alarm about global warming. With a Gore victory we could have been debt-free as a nation by now and actually taking significant steps towards ending our dependency on fossil fuels; instead the debt is $35 fucking trillion dollars (which is so enormous it sounds like a joke) and the only reason this isn't a bigger problem is that we're cooking ourselves off the planet anyway and no amount of debt is going to matter.
Somewhat tangential, but "global warming" was always a weak formulation of the problem and "climate change" even more so. I prefer "anthropogenic runaway global heating" which more accurately frames the actual problem and has the handy acronym ARGH.
Never forget, the election was literally stolen from Gore. The electoral equivalent of the OJ Simpson trial.
big fucking tough guy when it comes to sending other peoples' kids out to die for a bullshit war based on outright lies
but when it's time to actually take the correct stance on something, he buckles like a lawn chair under the average cod cosplaying maga chud
I was living in NYC before and after 9/11.
The Ground Zero pit stayed undeveloped until 2007 because that's how long it took the money men to decide which insurer would pay for what. George W. never bothered to push them to hurry things, because it was vital that every single penny be accounted for. No problem with starting a war with lies, but money must be guarded to the utmost.
They wanted it to stay an open wound because it let them be more jingo
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He's super busy painting dog pictures.
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Second worst president ever.
He's considered a war criminal in most countries outside of North America and Europe.
Still waiting to see W, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Wolfowitz convicted of war crimes for all the torture they oversaw at those cia black sites, among other things. Absolutely villainous.
Wow, Rumsfeld died three years ago - I hadn't heard that. Death at age 88 is almost infant mortality for a war criminal Republican. Count Dracula-Wolfowitz is still going strong, however.
Bush and Cheney basically fabricated the entire Iraq War and the only people to come out on top were Exxon Fucking Mobil who took majority control of the Iraqi oilfields, and then the executive in charge of the operation, Rex Tillerson, got appointed to the Trump admin.
Thousands dead for greed. America's hands stained in blood and grease for generations.
Still only second worst tho, no disagreement on that.
Bush and Cheney basically fabricated the entire Iraq War and the only people to come out on top were Exxon Fucking Mobil
Be fair. Halliburton did pretty well for themselves as well.
Hilarious to me that all the media spent time rehabbing Bush's image and he can't even manage to match Dick fucking Cheney?
Cheney is pissed at his daughter losing her family-guaranteed sinecure in Wyoming to a Trumpie, because he's invested in his family's political legacy.
Bush has no real beef with the Trumps and isn't trying to give his daughters a leg up into the next administration.
Totally different set of political incentives to endorse.
I mean, Bush and Trump are in direct competition for worst presidents in living memory.
...and they both kinda jimmy with elections. They have a lot in common really so it makes sense he'll be averse to calling out someone whose not that dissimilar to himself.
Also Bush has a generational bonding to the GOP, so there's probably some level of moral compromise in that.
I had Bush ahead of Trump for a long time, but now I have to give it to Donnie.
It's one thing to lie about a war, and a whole differnet level to plan to kill citizens with Covid.
Both were awful. At least you don't fall for the rehabilitation so many in our media have been doing of Bush
Both are incredibly incompetent. However, I think if Bush had not become president he would have been seen as somebody who is a bit stupid, and easy to influence, but otherwise a pleasant personality. Trump on the other hand was a criminal long before he saw the Oval Office.
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I had Bush ahead of Trump for a long time
Presidents in the rear view mirror rarely carry the emotional weight of ones at the forefront.
I'd argue Reagan was worse than both of them. We had all the nightmarish bellicose foreign policy of the Bush Administration, the disastrous neglect of health care leading to multiple epidemics from the Trump Era, and dogshit fiscal policy that gave us massive recessions and enormous new debts to accompany our contracting quality of life at the end of his last term.
But who still remembers Iran-Contra or the '87 bank collapse or our deplorable environmental and civil rights policies or the then-extremely-lethal AIDS epidemic?
Buchanan and Andrew Johnson are still largely considered the two worst historical presidents. Truman and Nixon are routinely cited as 20th century flops. But its very difficult to remember how shit America was before most of the folks doing the rankings were even alive. Harder still to have enough of a historical baseline to make an objective measure.
As soon as Trump is done, we're going to be on one about how DeSantis or Cruz or Matt Gaetz is the actual worst person to run for President in our lifetimes.
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Trump is the only chance gwb has of someone else having more war crimes than him; making him look less evil.
These are Republicans, they only ever serve their own best interests.
I mean, who's surprised by this? Dubya was always a dumbass, and essentially the beta version of Trump.
W was always a tool, a blank slate for his owners to use. The guy has no thoughts of his own so I'm not surprised.
He may not have been a genius mastermind but he's smart enough not to be absolved of the evils he committed. Blank slate is a juuuuust a bit too far for me
Just saying
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Its Bush, that war criminal can go to hell
Didn’t he start the stacking the supreme court? Could have been his dad. Jr was just stupider.
No, that was Ronald Reagan, who gave us most of the SCOTUS justices who picked W over Gore to be President in the 2000 election despite his having lost.
Bushes are morally bankrupt anyways. Two war criminals and one of them, Laura, killed her friend in a car accident where she ran a stop sign.
Choose a side you fucking coward, Bush.
I've never seen a Bush miss an opportunity to be on the wrong side of history.
He wants Republicans policies but not Trump. He's stuck like a lot of other people. Unfortunately, most of those people will hold their noses and vote for Trump and hope for the best. That's the two-party system for ya.
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I wonder if this is because W benefitted from the same ratfuckery that Trump uses (Roger Stone, Brooks Bros Riot, etc.)
Centrists are so disappointed that senpai didn't notice them.
To Bush, being morally indefensible is a plus.
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