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Gisèle Pelicot, who was drugged by her husband with dozens of men accused of raping her, has emerged as a defiant public voice for victims of sexual abuse in France.

Gisèle Pelicot, 72, struck a defiant note during her testimony Wednesday as defense lawyers raised doubts about whether she was fully unconscious during the alleged rapes by dozens of men over a decade, suggesting she may have consented to the repeated assaults orchestrated by her former husband, Dominique Pelicot, 71.

“I have felt humiliated," an outraged Gisèle Pelicot said of the arguments alleging she was an alcoholic or being her ex-husband's co-conspirator. “In the state I was in, I absolutely could not respond. I was in a comatose state; the videos show that.” 

At least 83 men were recorded on video and photos assaulting an unconscious Pelicot; 50 of them have been identified and are currently on trial accused of raping her, which many of them deny. Two defense lawyers for some of the men had asked the court to display photos which they said raised doubts whether the victim was aware of what was happening to her.

Many of the defendants deny raping Pelicot. Some claim they were tricked by her husband, others say they believed she was consenting and others argue that her husband’s consent was sufficient.

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[–] [email protected] 71 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Jesus Christ.

This is just. I'm glad she's being so public about this, this isn't about her husband, this is an argument aimed at humanity as a whole.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago

You know, I can go with that. I was just reflecting how her response to all this is a beacon of light in what is otherwise an absolutely grim, disgusting event.

[–] [email protected] 61 points 1 month ago

Every time I read about this story I am amazed once again by this woman's strength.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 month ago (1 children)

How are the defense saying she consented while the accused himself is admitting guilt and saying he did it and is sorry?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Defense lawyers are supposed to try everything they can to defend their client, no matter how little sense it makes. It is theoretically possible for an admission of guilt to be false.

It's up to the judge to understand their arguments are worthless and rule accordingly.

That's how this is supposed to work.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I thought the defense and their defendant have to be on the same page. Like if he wants to plead guilty and such

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago

I understood it as the defense attorneys of the other 50 men being charged. They don't all have the same attorney.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 month ago

The defense lawyers also tried the "rape" and rape defense bullshit. Arguing that if you're not intentionally raping someone, it's not rape.

I guess it's their job to defend their clients but what the fuck is that kind of argument...

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Fuck in a way I also feel bad for the defense layers. Like I’m pretty sure none of the want to defend these rapist pieces of shit, but in a way they have to in order for the system to function properly. Imagine having to defend rapists and falsely accused “rapists” in the same way, with the same effort and determination. I’m sure I couldn’t do it

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Are they retarded? You can't consent to rape.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Consensual non-consent is a thing. I'm not giving an opinion on it. Just saying it's a thing.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

That doesn't sound like what this is.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

The comments the husband has given are fairly good proof at least some, probably most, were fucked up and knowingly raping a drugged up woman that didn't have a clue it was happening. But with so many doing it, I do wonder if some of them honestly thought she was in on it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Im not trying to insinuate, but that kind of thing is a kink I've heard of before.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Well there you go. There's a word for everything!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Yeah I agree