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[–] [email protected] 106 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (4 children)

Remember that Dale also did not know what the confederate flag truly meant. He just thought it was a southern thing. And the minute someone told him how offensive it was to them, he went and immediately scraped it off his truck and apologized.

Dale wasn't no damn loser traitor.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 6 days ago

And nowadays, he'd be labeled woke and accosted by the right...

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago

Most people back then didn't give the Confederate flag a second thought.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 days ago

🇺🇲🫡

[–] [email protected] 83 points 6 days ago (4 children)

Actually it was bootlegging.

[–] [email protected] 58 points 6 days ago (35 children)

The underlying point is the same. Bootleggers were providing what the people wanted and cops were in the way because ACAB. That's the core of it.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I'll remind you that prohibition required a Constitutional amendment, the idea was very popular.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Popular amongst Protestant busybodies with more zeal than sense and outsized influence on politicians, sure, but not necessarily the population in general.

I'll in turn remind you that it became so unpopular that they passed a new amendment to get rid of it, the only time that ever happened.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago (2 children)

It was popular for a reason people don't understand now: women were getting the shit beaten out of them by their drunken husbands. So a huge number of people, especially women, thought prohibition would stop that. Unfortunately, it just created a whole new kind of violence without reducing the domestic violence.

But the cause was a lot more noble than people give it credit for.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

A lot of people don't know that Abraham Lincoln was a big proponent of prohibition. It was seen by progressives as an important step to move society forward.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (3 children)

women were getting the shit beaten out of them by their drunken husbands. So a huge number of people, especially women, thought prohibition would stop that

They thought wrong. Typical of conservatives to blame something external and simple for a societal problem rooted in toxic gender roles and family structures.

the cause was a lot more noble than people give it credit for.

Except for the fact that there's nothing noble about jumping to conclusions and trying to solve the only tangentially related problems of some by depriving everyone else of something that most of them enjoyed more or less responsibly.

a reason people don't understand now

On the contrary: we still understand that domestic violence is awful and we now also understand that alcohol doesn't in itself cause it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

are you seriously blaming conservatives for something that the progressives of the time championed?

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Yeah. And bootleggers run from the cops. Because fuck em

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Also because they'd prefer to stay alive and free.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

That's true haha

[–] [email protected] 37 points 6 days ago

Same difference.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 days ago

Actually, there was a big culture in rural areas to just fuck with cops for fun, and the best way to avoid being arrested is to be faster than the cops.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Capitalism is why. There was a market for moonshine and high profit margins for the risk.

Money is usually the motivation

[–] [email protected] 28 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Seems a bit reductive. Everything boils down to money if you're content to look no higher up the hierarchy of needs.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 6 days ago

Capitalism isn't market forces existing at all.

Capitalism is directing and manipulating those forces towards accumulation and endless growth, following an ethos of "more is more and more is inherently good"

I suspect that there would be a shitload more anticapitalist people in the world if everyone was aware that markets and capitalism aren't synonyms..

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 days ago

Capitalism is not equal to smuggling or free markets. Capitalism means the private ownership of the means of production, and a market economy is possible under other systems.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 days ago (2 children)

There's an antique boat style here called 'pirtuvene', literally grain alcohol boat. These boats smuggled millions of liters of pure alcohol through the gulf of Finland from Estonia. Smugglers were gunned down, coast guard were gunned down, people were drinking more booze than ever and boat builders were doing good business both with the smugglers and the cops.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 days ago

When people are digging to China, sell shovels

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 6 days ago

Raise Hell, Praise Dale

[–] [email protected] 33 points 6 days ago

Yee haw, fuck the law.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Reminds me of Bikers with a rebel lifestyles being the ultimate bootlickers

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Wellll there's two types of bikers, there's those that want to seem like rebels, and there's meth dealers that will kill you. There's also people who ride motorcycles that aren't "bikers" too.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

Totally! I did a ride along with a bunch of boomer bikers riding harleys while I rode my "crotch rocket". Half were police officers. it was weird to be anti-establishment in our get up and watch the ride leader radio police to back off.

Totally agree on the meth bikers. They're scary.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago

Booze, actually. But same basic concept.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 days ago

If they could only be a little quieter outside my house.

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