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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (8 children)

How does pirating make a corporation broke? Making a copy doesn't steal money.

Edit: We can't pirate a company into bankruptcy.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Because they keep whining that they're losing money /s

EDIT: added /s

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I have an automated setup that can torrent the same game 100000 times so I can make corporations go broke at the click of a button. Fear me

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

I have a collection of 10000 classic Nintendo games on an HDD so I can make Nintendo America file chapter 11. Fear me

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

We can’t pirate a company into bankruptcy because there are still people paying for the movies and games we download. If everyone pirated content, these companies would go bankrupt, and there would no longer be new content to pirate. Online pirates often justify their behavior by telling themselves a story about how they’re 'sticking it to the man,' but in reality, we’re just freeriders enjoying the fruits of others' labor. We’re leeches with no moral ground to stand on.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

Well, they have to pay licensing fees for the media, pay crazy money for the IT infrastructure, which they have no matter how many downloads.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

You didn't pay up to enjoy the product. They lost revenue. But yes, it didn't "broke" the corporation.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This assumes I was going to buy it in the first place

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

You would if piracy wasn't an option. Maybe not all of it, but some of it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

They lost revenue

They lost HYPOTHETICAL revenue. Assuming that everyone who pirates a product would otherwise buy it is a textbook appeal to probability fallacy

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Unless "piracy" is your alternative to buying a brand new copy at launch, I don't wanna hear it.

If GameStop can make bank re-selling used games without giving back a cent to the developer, how is doing the same for free, without taking up competitive retail space any worse?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (17 children)

Because the copy sold by GameStop was already paid for to the publisher.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (5 children)

In fact, you're helping them promote their stuff. E.g. everyone is watching that TV show and it's all your friends are talking about. Now you have to do it too.

If instead of pirating you'd be like "I think it's extremely expensive to pay a subscription fee for this low tier content, so instead I've been reading X". Maybe you'd convice someone to join you. But for now you're just reinforcing the media monopoly.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

How are you this naive? You know someone has to pay the developers a salary right? How would corporations pay them if nobody bought the game and instead pirated?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Yeah you gotta support the corporations financially so the game can be successful and they can go on to lay off all their developers anyway.

Remember Tango Studios?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

They pay out of initial capital investment and leveraging.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

If you aren't stealing them they aren't stealing your content or work with AI. This pirating isn't stealing bullshit is tired. Some backwards ass way to justify stealing someone's right to distribute their work and get paid.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This is definitely some "I'm a 14 year-old edge lord" content right here

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

That was partly the intention lol

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago

I'm not sure what is with all the recent gatekeeping and glamourisation I am seeing around pirating, just seed your torrent and go bro.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago

I pirate because it's too much hassle otherwise.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago

Oh how I wish it worked like that.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago

I could navigate 8 different streaming services with unique catalogs and awful UIs just to find that my show isn’t available in Canada—not with a clear notification, but by empty search results where it’s supposed to be.

Or I could run a docker container that automatically searches everywhere for me and puts shows in my library minutes after their release.

For my uses it would be more convenient to pirate shows on the services I still pay for.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I pirate because I want to try it first. The days of rolling the dice on a 60 dollar game like on the NES are over.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

Yo there's games that cost 80€ for me ($88.60). Even if I could afford that I would not pay that much. And remember that there are a bunch of games that basically don't drop in price at all.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago

Remember, every time you download an episode instead of streaming it you cause the corporations to lose MILLIONS (according to their words).

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago

I pirate because I know I won't have it eventually if I don't. Where I can, I donate directly to the creator instead of the worthless middlemen that are going to disappear next year and take my purchase with them.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

i wish it would.

i would be pirating even shit i dont want.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

I pirate because i have a digital hoarding issue

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

I pirate because ads and cost. Not that I couldn't afford it, but accepting price increases for the same or reduced quality of service encourages enshittification. Ads are unacceptable, period.

Give me Steam level quality and you'll receive my money. That includes offline capabilities, family sharing, uncompromised content quality, and no taking back purchased items. In short, make me trust your platform. And I will never pay for subscriptions. Netflix was close, but alas.

The best time to start was 20 years ago (again, Netflix). Second best is now.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I used to pirate because when I started gaming, I was poor.

I could afford a game or two, but I was smart enough to know getting a modded ps2 would mean that my money would go much much further and thereby maximize my gaming experience. My gaming budget was the same, but I wanted my money to go to hardware.

Now I’m an adult, work as a software dev and the price isn’t a problem. But now I pirate because as a dev I know, all the hard workers are paid salary/hourly before the game releases, and if it’s a AAA game, all the money goes to investors.

Solution? Being a patient gamer and paying for indie games here and there :D

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

Because I'm a third worlder and have no other way.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

ChatGPT and basically any other powerful LLM is very likely trained on lots and lots of pirated data.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (3 children)

No, you don't. That's the point of piracy. Corporations extract every bit of wealth from the consumer class to the point that they don't even notice piracy, other than to decry it as a great evil. Nobody is going out of business.

When it comes to corporations, steal everything.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I’ve always wondered - what qualification do we use to decide when a “business” (run by a kind guy behind a counter he built himself from scrap wood) evolves into a “corporation” (evil and scheming, part of the global capitalist conspiracy)?

Like, if the guy who runs my local coffee shop opens a second cafe further down the street, should I start tapping his phone to find out how the YouTube Content ID system works, now that he’s a part of The Corporations? Should I start breaking into his cafe and start stealing scones? Or do we want to wait until he has a third location

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Probably a third location, just to be safe.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Seeders get leeches

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