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Edit: I am trying to put linux on a compaq armada 1700.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Tiny Core has a minimum CPU of i486DX.

antiX might also work but I couldn't find a minimum CPU requirement listed, just that it has an x86 version.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I’m running antix on a Pentium 2 with 512mb ram and it’s performing quite nicely

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

This has 32mb

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago (8 children)

Is nobody gonna ask?!? Why do you have a pentium 2? I like old hardware as much or more than the next guy but man that’s old. And this from a guy who has a working Commodore 64 🤣

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago

throwing Linux on ancient hardware is a time honored tradition

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Some time ago I scalvanged some old hardware my old school was gonna throw out.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Oh I get it. I hate to see hardware that could be useful being thrown out. Hence the reason I have stacks of 1TB hard drives with no real use.

I have a long term goal of running my home automation system on that commodore for no other reason than it’s weird. So I get it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

I never even thought to ask "why"...

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

I've got a 500mhz Celeron from the P3 days, it runs OS/2 and has an ISA EPROM burner card in it.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago

Shit, I’ve thrown out stuff several generations newer than that because it was too old.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

The Linux kernel works fine. How much ram do you have? I personally would build a custom image with buildroot.

Other option is Debian

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

The option is Debian.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago

I think that's going to be more of a limitation than your CPU. Any chance of getting 256+ MB of ram?

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Fli4l should. Back when it was new it was meant to fit on a floppy and run on 3'86 machines. It's for running a home router.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Fli4l is still around?! Crazy. I used that back in 2002 or so to turn an old i386 with 3 ISA HP 100Mbit network cards into a router + fileserver combo. Good times.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

I have Tiny Core running on a PII 333MHz machine with 128MB of RAM

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (10 children)
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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

With 32MB of RAM you can't go far. The Linux kernel barely runs on it, and that's just the kernel. NetBSD also has a minimum requirement of 32GB of RAM. One other thing you can do is try to run BeOS (not Haiku, but BeOS). It could run on 32MB of RAM (it still preferred 64 MB, but it could run on 32 too).

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 weeks ago

Damn, NetBSD really upped their ram requirements 😂

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

May I ask what you want to do with it?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I wanted to create an abomination, but it's to old. I'll have to "upgrade" to a newer machine.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Debian still supports Pentium IIs. They axed support for the i586 architecture (original Pentium) a few years back, but Debian 12 (current stable, AKA Bookworm) still supports i686 chips like the P2.

Not sure how the rest of the hardware in that Compaq will work.

See: https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch02s01.en.html

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Not Linux but Haiku would run on it I think.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

Frankly the power consumption of that thing x performance delivered will be just bad. Take for example this example, a more modern Pentium D vs a Pi:

If you don't have any kind of attachment to the machine, just trash it, get a Pi or a second hand 8th Gen i5 HP Mini for around 80$ and enjoy. If you do have an attachment to the machine you may as well run some OS from the same era. https://winworldpc.com/library/operating-systems

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago

I'm doing it for the memes

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

That's interesting, I've never heard of anyone actually concerned about the power consumption of their PC before, but I guess it makes sense if you live somewhere that it's quite expensive or just don't have much money... or want to be greener I guess.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

I don't live in a place with particularly high energy prices, but I've been reading about countless complaints about home labbers changing to new hardware because of that.

The thing is that, even if the power is cheap a Pi when you're comparing a PII to a RPi 4 or a modern machine with a "T" CPU if you've the money to spend on the new thing you'll way better, faster CPU, faster RAM, less noise, less power, more modern features, less software issues... at certain point it makes no sense to run that old hardware. Did you ever try to SSH into a Core Duo machine with a Ed25519 key? The CPU doesn't have the modern crypto extensions making the login unbearably slow, similar happens with other SSL stuff.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

As others have suggested, the only option I can think of is Tinycore but you’ll need to get the Microcore version (aka Core ISO with no GUI). This should run on 32MB RAM but leaves you very little headroom with a very barebones install, and obviously no GUI of any kind. [Source]

I looked up the Compaq Armada 1700 and saw that it came with 32MB soldered with one slot available to expand up to 160MB. It’s a long shot, but if you can find a working 32MB, 64MB or 128MB memory module for this you should be able to run TinyCore with a GUI. Adding more RAM would also open up options like Slackware.

It’s not clear to me if Debian will work or not, even with maxing out the RAM in this computer. There is a low memory install mode you could try but I think even that requires at least 256MB which is beyond the theoretical maximum this computer supports.

If all you want to do is prove to yourself that you can install Linux on this computer then Microcore might be worth a try. If you want a usable system with a GUI then you’re probably going to have to add more RAM.

This could be a long shot, but so long as you do NOT connect it to the internet, you could try sourcing a Linux distribution from back when this computer was released, I’m thinking Redhat Linux (before RHEL and Fedora was a thing) or Debian a very old version of Debian. However even if you do succeed in this it’s probably not going to be usable.

Good luck!

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