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Tesla will sue you for $50,000 if you try to resell your Cybertruck in the first year::Tesla may agree to buy the truck back at the original price minus "$0.25/mile driven" and any damages and repairs.

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[–] [email protected] 244 points 11 months ago (13 children)

This is, surprisingly, not that unusual for vehicles in high demand. It's to prevent flipping.

GM does it on certain vehicles as well:

https://gmauthority.com/blog/2023/08/gm-restrains-customers-from-flipping-cars-but-not-dealers-from-charging-ridiculous-markups/

(the C8 Corvette Z06, GMC Hummer EV, and Cadillac Escalade-V if you want to know without clicking the link.)

[–] [email protected] 101 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (6 children)

GM wasn't harsh enough IMHO. They should have black listed people who immediately flipped base C8s for significantly more than MSRP. Base C8s (not Z51) going for over 100k, with miles on them, was fucking ridiculous.

I'll say it now: car dealers are useless dinosaurs and there is no point to having them anymore. I don't need a dealer to tell me what options I want on my car. I can select those on a webpage after I've reviewed the available options. I need a place to take my car for service if it's a factory failure / warranty work. I can do the rest myself or pay another focused professional to do the work.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 11 months ago (16 children)

I'm no fan of flipping/scalping but the choice of the degradation of ownership is much worse. If they really own the car then they aught to be able to resell it.

Prediction; this will extend beyond just high end cars.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Real estate and Ticketmaster: "Fuck yeah, flip that shit and inflate our markets to insanity!"

Auto industry: "Fuck you, we do the inflating around here. Pay me!"

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[–] [email protected] 129 points 11 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 47 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Not sure what you are talking about. I have the freedom to not sign some dumbass agreement with tesla and not purchase a shitty looking cyber truck, and I will use that very freedom. No one is being forced to take this deal.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 11 months ago (2 children)

You have the freedom as long as it stays niche. Having no protections against such practices means they have a chance of becoming so commonplace as to be unavoidable.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 11 months ago (5 children)

"Just don't buy it" is a time-limited argument. If it becomes the norm to require signing a contract for ownership then you'll have to argue "just don't buy a car". If you don't like cars then maybe that's okay but for other items that position sucks ass.

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[–] [email protected] 113 points 11 months ago (13 children)

“ Given the subscription model of much of the software Tesla EVs use, resale can be complicated. The Full Self-Driving feature, which costs up to $199 per month, is not transferable to a new owner, Fast Company reported.”

Just another reason I’m never buying

[–] [email protected] 30 points 11 months ago (6 children)

$199 per month?! Fuck me that's moronic.

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[–] [email protected] 97 points 11 months ago (6 children)

Capitalism is so schizophrenic. Is supply and demand in a free market meant to decide the value of goods or not?? If regulations and penalties are required, why not across the board??

[–] [email protected] 25 points 11 months ago

A company is not capitalism. Pure capitalism without any regulation doesn't work, because it tends towards having one big company that controls everything. However, every single company by itself strives towards that goal, bribing politicians to get its way when necessary. Thus, if those bribes go unpunished (like through the Citizens United decision in the US), capitalism eventually eliminates itself.

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[–] [email protected] 93 points 11 months ago

The best solution to this problem is not to buy one in the first place.

[–] [email protected] 83 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It is bizarre how much of a comic book villain Musk has turned in to.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 11 months ago (8 children)

What do you mean "Turned into" ?

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[–] [email protected] 77 points 11 months ago (8 children)

Jokes on them. I’d never buy one of these hilariously abhorrent piles of shit.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 11 months ago

I used to think Teslas were cool. Now I just see the specter of Elon. Regardless, these look like a test for suckers.

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[–] [email protected] 76 points 11 months ago (5 children)

While this is an asshole move, companies like Ferrari do stuff like this too. They, for example, do not allow certain modifications on their cars and if they find out that you have done them, they will ask you to restore those parts back to originals. It is unreal how much car companies try to get from us.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 11 months ago (8 children)

Papa Enzo knows best. Don't understand how that's legal unless it's some sort of lease agreement

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Forget the obvious bullshit that is being unable to sell it. What's this about autopilot/FSD not being transferable?

Who the hell would buy this monstrosity of a truck. Be sure not to buy FSD since it will be a lost cost and never recouped for a capability that really doesn't work yet. $12,000 down the drain.

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (9 children)

So is this thing actually called a "Cybertruck"? Because that sounds like something my 7-year-old would come up with. I hadn't really given it much thought until now...

[–] [email protected] 36 points 11 months ago (6 children)

That's how Musk names everything. He loves the letter X, he named the Tesla models "S", "3", "X", and "Y", the Cybertruck, his five most recent children including "Techno Mechanicus"... He's absolutely unfit to be in charge of anything.

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 11 months ago (26 children)

Absolute deal-breaker. I will not be dictated to on what I may or may not do with my personal private property, beyond the bounds of the law.

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 11 months ago (5 children)

It’s shit behavior that should be illegal, but I also can’t feel bad for any moron that sees this truck and still agrees to buy it.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 11 months ago (1 children)

In this situation there would be two morons

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 11 months ago

damn its ugly af

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Implying they produce enough to sell any at all, anyone is dumb enough to buy one, anyone if dumb enough to buy it off another dummy who bought one.

This is just Tesla stirring up a story, and trying to make it seem like anyone wants one of these monstrosities, and that they can make them.

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 11 months ago (3 children)

This is great: I was so frustrated by lack of availability for XBox, from all the scalpers. Same with tickets to pretty much everything. Same with Raspberry Pi. Look at how the eEVs like the Hummer and Lightning were hurt by both dealers and scalpers making vehicles hard to get and excessively priced

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 11 months ago (5 children)

How is this legal in the US given the first sale doctrine?

[–] [email protected] 26 points 11 months ago (8 children)

Ferrari has some similar bullshit, but you agree to it in a contract when you buy the car. If you refuse they simply don't sell you the car.

(Ferrari chooses you, not the other way around)

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 11 months ago (8 children)

I can't wait to make fun of one of these in the wild. What a stupid, ugly vehicle.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 11 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 38 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I saw an episode of LegalEagle (I think it was about NFTs) and it's a terms of sale thing and he spoke about John Cena doing something similar with Ford:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2017/12/02/ford-sues-actor-wwe-superstar-john-cena-over-his-car/915846001/#:~:text=Ford%20Motor%20is%20trying%20to,violation%20of%20his%20purchase%20agreement.

I found the LegalEagle episode:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=C6aeL83z_9Y&si=vONBqJ14_KZ65lF8

It's around 6:49

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 11 months ago (2 children)

This sounds like the kind of thing Ferrari does, that people accept because if you own a Ferrari you're kinda part of an exclusive club of rich assholes. Teslas are expensive but they're not "exclusive club" expensive, they're more like BMWs.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 11 months ago (6 children)
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[–] [email protected] 29 points 11 months ago

Sorry, I don't want to buy a car that looks like old Tomb Raider where Lara's boobs are triangular.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 11 months ago (7 children)

That vehicle looks like its trying too hard to be futuristic.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I recently saw one of these in the wild and they’re even more ridiculous looking in person. The photos don’t do it justice lol

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 11 months ago

I wonder how many people signed up for the intent of flipping and will now back out. 🤞

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