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There are new reports that he's in the hospital. I will undelete this post if his death is confirmed.


https://t.me/astrapress/61420

Z-war correspondent Poddubny is alive, Kursk regional hospital reported

His hospitalization in the Kursk Regional Hospital was confirmed to the Defense Ministry's Zvezda TV channel. Soon this information was confirmed by Poddubny's employer, the VGTRK television and radio company. The Z-war correspondent was wounded as a result of a UAV attack.

The video allegedly shows Poddubny being hospitalized.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I want to add: The guy dressed like active russian soldiers and he never had outward signs identifying him as press. The vehicles he drove in on the frontline were those of the russian army, so again no markings of being press. Thus Ukraine attacked some Russian soldiers, one of which happened to be an embedded war journalist. Afaik, Ukraine did not actively seek out or target a journalist.

This attack by Ukraine is not the same thing as the Israeli or Russian army targeting journalists. If a journalist clearly marked themselves or their vehicle as journalists, then they were more likely to be attacked by the Israeli/Russian army than if they hadn't. Russia has even been using guided missiles to target hotels because foreign press was staying there. And given that Russia actively targeted journalists, that might be an explanation as to why this russian propagandist did not mark himself as a journalist, but imo it's more likely that he just liked cosplaying as one of the boys.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago

Might also ne deliberate. Russian army told the guy to not dress as press, so he would get killed and Russia could cry "they killin press!"

[–] [email protected] 34 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (8 children)

OK I’m not going to lie I feel a little mixed about this one. News correspondents - even for outlets that barely qualify as “news” or in any way “journalistic” - are not enemy combatants.

Maybe it will come out that he was armed and participating in the conflict in some way, in which case obviously the lines become blurred and I don’t feel bad anymore. But I don’t see that or much other info here.

[–] [email protected] 67 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Sure but if you're in the military vehicle with military personnel your presence doesn't somehow disqualify the military vehicle from being a legitimate target.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (2 children)

That may or may not be the case but there are still people in this thread saying he should be killed for “spreading propaganda.”

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

We really shouldn't get to decide that.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

Yeah, we shouldn't be trying to justify killing journalists.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

He wasn't wearing UN blue with PRESS patches, instead wearing Russian camo. That's a big no no. Even non standard RA kit like black body armor is better. But you gotta wear white PRESS patches if you don't want to be mistaken for a combatant. That being said, all embedded correspondents take the risk. No situation is ideal, but a technical with military markings is absolutely fair game.

I agree no journalist should ever be targeted, regardless of their bias. Knowing Poddubny shouldn't be targeted is why I know a NYT journalist won't be targeted. They are in live combat zones though, and sadly people uninvolved do die in war.

Source: work in doc/investigative journalism

Here's an example of what his kit should look like:

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago (8 children)

participating in the conflict in some way

On the photo he looks like a Russian soldier.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

He was wearing uniform, so combatant. Also, because of his propaganda many innocent people died. The hit on him is 100% justified.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (22 children)

When their primary responsibilities are pushing propaganda they become enemy combatants. The pen is mightier, after all.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Look at the picture and his history of working in the field. He cosplayed as Russian soldiers, traveled in military vehicles and made no effort to mark himself or others as press or journalist. There is no reasonable way anyone not familiar with him would have been able to pick him out from other soldiers he was embedded with. Probably the only thing that would mark him as press would be him talking to a camera.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

It’s one fucking picture!

Either way this argument misses the point. Press deaths shouldn’t be celebrated.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Probably wasnt individually targeted himself

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (9 children)

Participating in state run war propaganda is just as deadly as shooting a rifle.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

They are now starting to sow sunflowers in ruzzia itself.

Even better than in Ukraine!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago

Ohh no! Anyway...

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

He wasn't a good guy but he was a journalist and a non-combatant, wasn't he? I don't think you're supposed to deliberately kill people like that.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

He was in a military vehicle.

https://t.me/ssternenko/32092

Yes, Poddubny was driving a Peugeot Landtrek pickup truck, diesel, with Z marking. The car was equipped with EW against FPV.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago

That makes sense.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

"Journalist". The shutter button can kill as many brains as a trigger if the intentions are rooted in evil. Fuck him and fuck his lies he told his own people and tried to misinform the rest.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (4 children)

You can say that about literally anyone and now everyone is fair game. Fix your stance before you get knocked down.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

THIS is why you shouldn't do front line reporting. Abby Martin refused because of stuff like this. Don't give me surprised Pikachu face if you get hurt in a warzone.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

He had it coming.

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