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[–] [email protected] 84 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Doesn't feel like they're losing at the moment.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago

It didn't in 1940 either. Didn't take them long after that, though.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago

They always lose in the end

[–] [email protected] 53 points 3 months ago

Watch the news and be depressed about it I guess. Also, being glad not to live there.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Real talk, it's going to be like the troubles or the early days of Nazi Germany, not like people forming battle lines and shit. The only way the latter happens is if states secede; one viable scenario I've considered is California/Pacifica seceding and a subsequent shooting fight over water rights, because of how much water California gets from the Colorado River basin and other water sources outside its borders. But realistically, it's going to be shitty partisan on partisan on innocent bystander violence.

Best advice I've heard is to form close ties and mutual aid agreements with your neighbors and friends. A small network of people can be far, far, far more resilient in defending protecting themselves than individuals or families can.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Best advice I’ve heard is to form close ties and mutual aid agreements with your neighbors and friends.

My neighbors are heavy GOP supporters. The single political sign I've ever put in my yard was to support the Pro Reproductive Freedom amendment ballot measure (pro choice amendment, which subsequently passed!). All of my neighbors had signs in their yard opposing it. I had a neighbor that lived a block away stop me while I was mowing my law asking me why I support a law that killed babies and turning kids trans. Nothing in the reproductive freedom amendment language has anything to do with anything trans.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

and turning kids trans.

........I'm so confused by his logic.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago

That's because it's not logic

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Best advice I've heard is to form close ties and mutual aid agreements with your neighbors and friends. A small network of people can be far, far, far more resilient in defending protecting themselves than individuals or families can.

I read an interview with someone from the war in Bosnia, and he talked about surviving the war. He said big families, in one house, they had an easier war. When shit gets real is when “friends” start to evaporate or turn their back, a lot more than you would think. The single people, or little families off on their own, they mostly didn’t make it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

It's because that war was about national (racial) and religious identity. Families usually belonged together then.

In Usa it will be a little different. Race would be one aspect, too. But more so your wealth/social status. A struggle between classes. Rich against poor, and many shades in between.

And maybe young against old. Conservativism has gone too far in both (still so-called) parties. "Left" may not be progressive enough anymore.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

It would never happen, no one in CA wants to leave the US and figure out how to maintain a national robust military. Also it's really unlikely any US armed forces would break off from the US in significant numbers, so if you want to enforce your new country, you need to navigate a potential war with a military that has bases, weapons development, troops, and equipment in the most strategically advantaged locations. You'd need to silently create a counter army, and have VERY risky attacks at nearly every base all the same time, and capture most of the equipment in the process. If you aren't force marching hundreds of US military people to a secure location, you aren't winning any war, and the only successful way to exit the US is to have a military strong enough to prevent the US from immediately seizing control of the state, or thinking twice about starting a war.

It's infinitly easier to use the existing system to progress the country in the direction you want to go over all.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

The only way the latter happens is if states secede

Still seems pretty unlikely at this point, but I could maybe see this. Especially with the whole thing around Oregon and Idaho right now. Could start seeing states reform along political boundaries. Those lines aren't very clean, but they exist.

I think the rural areas would just lose by mass though. Also, nobody seems to understand the co-dependence between urban and rural areas so splitting them up with weaken both.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 months ago (5 children)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago

I have been in this habit all my life and will continue to do so :)

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'm gonna visit this guys house.......for like the next 60 years.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Playing hard to get is just going to encourage the crazies.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

By the time the crazies find me I'll be running low on food. I've heard people taste like chicken.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

There's a reason it's called Long Pork, actually...

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 months ago

Head over and shoot fascists. What else is there?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Starve? Die from lack of medicine/doctors? Get killed for being in the wrong place at the wrong time?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

So like, every day that ends in "y" in the US?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago

Focus on hit and run, and harassment tactics. Spec into speed and endurance, and use mostly Void Rays, hopefully we can wrap it up in mid game with a decent economy and a mid level apm.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Probably just continue to talk shit to Nazis until one of them kills me.

Y'know, a life well lived.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago

Probably get shot by some Y'all Qaeda cosplayer for having a mixed race spouse. Whether this happens before or after my brother gets taken out for being gay is up for debate. I hope my sister is spared because her meathead baby daddy is a right wing useful idiot, but she's an unmarried bisexual mother and that doesn't pass the purity test, no sir.

I kinda feel bad for my mom since she was largely apolitical until a black man had the audacity to get elected president, but there's nothing I can do to stop the parade of leopards once they go face-hunting. Doubly so if I'm dead.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Hope it's like the first one and nothing happens in California.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago

Bad news for you: California is the focal point of many of their current conflicts.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago

As a Canadian: stay the heck away the border because who knows if they're gonna launch a missile at Niagara Falls, NY and hit Niagara Falls, ON?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Back in the day I was a soldier who could hit a target pretty well. But I'm 50 now and my back barely works for standing up, let alone fighting.

I'm going to be a meat sandbag for people to fight behind.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

My too, brother. But I can still hit those targets, and I have rifles better suited for sniping, now, and better for getting through body armor. As long as I take out more than once of them before they get me, it's a win.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Load the rounds and haul the hurt. Everyone deserves to be useful.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

What if there is a nuclear war just as an asteroid hits the earth while the supervolcano erupts during the civil war?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Modern anime titles are getting wild

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

oh man that is an lol when I think about it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

Quite literally move to Canada, I'm a dual citizen.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Not talk about what I'd do if a fascist government were to start looking for people like me.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I'm getting older, have few weapons and only paintball experience. So I'm of no use in combat. I'm fairly certain foreign powers would get involved, and I'd be curious to see what they do. Getting accurate news and info is difficult right now. I imagine it would be near impossible during a 2nd civil war.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago
[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Be very interested to see what that even looks like in this age.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

My best guess is extremist right wing terror attacks followed by armed riots which then get gunned down by government sponsored violence. Conservatives like to assume liberals aren't armed and are very willing to give them a reason to be.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Guerilla warfare, IEDs, etc. Look at what happened with the US in the Middle East in the 2000s for reference.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

I'd probably get taken out pretty quickly tbh

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Hope that important infrastructure like payment methods and social media end up heading to Europe. Maybe, if I can, let a particular friend from the States seek asylum and live with me.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Go hang out with my well armed friend on a boat somewhere in the Caribbean.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Hopefully not fuck things up for my comrades

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Hope everyone continues to forget New Mexico is part of the US and leave us alone.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

peace the fuck out to europe

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