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[–] [email protected] 211 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Because he IS too old. Biden did the right thing. Selflessly put the country before himself and listened to his party. I don't think Trump would ever have enough morals or integrity to do that in a million years unfortunately. So we'll have to beat the old loon and his band of circus freaks at the polls, again.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 5 months ago (23 children)

Biden was never supposed to run for a second term, and then dragged his feet until the very last minute. The selfless thing would’ve been to step aside for someone younger before the race began

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Yeah, he fucked over everyone by participating in the primaries.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

Not that I'm suggesting that this was intentional or that he did right to wait, but there are a few upsides. Trump and the Republicans were fully prepared and frothing to take on that blubbering old man from that last debate, but now they're actually going to make a case for Trump over a (hopefully) real contender. And many Democrat voters went from feeling defeated and apathetic, potentially enough to not even bother voting, to being charged with a second chance and a (again, hopefully) more exciting candidate to support. If Biden had declared his intention not to run again before the primaries, the Republicans would have had much longer to prepare and pick apart someone who wasn't such an easy target, and Dems would have been infighting over the nuances of a dozen candidates and pissed off at each other. And, if Harris is the presumptive nomination, for better or worse, the knee jerk reaction from the Right will probably be to play up the racist and sexist angles, which should drive moderates away from the right, not away from Harris.

It's all conjecture, but I only see this as a net positive compared to where we were yesterday.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 months ago

More importantly imo: it put Biden and the Dems in the news and overshadowed the attempted assassination. Which kept its new cycle short and put the dems back on top. Trump hates being out of the news, and was right that the media wants him back because they loved the numbers he provided. The DNC should make a circus out of this to keep it in the news and with constant breaking news events. It’s stupid, and I hate it, but it would help them win.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago (18 children)

agreed, never should have tried for the second bite.

however... dems now have an opportunity to own the news cycle from here until the election. if they do even a halfway decent job, we start trending from "narrow loss" -> "political landslide".

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[–] [email protected] 113 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Trump doesn't care about the responsibility of being president. He likes the power and prestige of it.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 5 months ago (2 children)

But I don't want real power, because with real power comes real responsibility, and I don't want any of that shit.

I just want the money.

And the illusion of power.

And puss.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 5 months ago

Not just that, this is his ticket to stop all the criminal trials.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 5 months ago

He does, but only because it's either be President or go to jail

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[–] [email protected] 89 points 5 months ago (1 children)

He's old as fuck and shits his diapers on stage

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago

He walks around with a frame when there aren't any cameras.

[–] [email protected] 86 points 5 months ago (5 children)

“The first party to retire its 80-year old candidate is going to be the one who wins this election.”

— Nikki Haley, in January.

BTW, I think it would be good for Dems to always call Trump 80. It will be a good irritation for Republicans

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago (7 children)

I've been getting down voted for saying it for a year...

But yeah, trump doesn't stand a fucking chance now. Also, this is probably the only way to get people excited about Kamala.

2028 better be a real primary or we just kicked the can down the road.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago (8 children)

You know it will probably be either the Harris reelection effort, or no election due to complications from Trumpitis

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 5 months ago

Yeah, these ads almost write themselves. Show clips of right-wingers describing Biden as old and senile, then splice in clips of Trump rambling incoherently. The entire Trump campaign has been built around attacking Biden, so there will probably be a lot of tangential benefits of switching to Harris.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 5 months ago (2 children)

The racist rapist, Dementia Don with 34 felonies needs to drop out, he's too old and can't even complete a coherent sentence.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

He can’t even complete his prison sentences.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

Like CNN is ever going to mention trumps age or any doubts about his mental capacity. They were bought out years ago.

If you ever hear a right winger whine about CNN smack them in the face for being so ungrateful. They carry trump water all day, every day.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 5 months ago (1 children)

If there's anyway to convince him not to run that'd be wonderful. There are many Maga folks that emulate him but I don't think they're nearly as likely to be able to actually pull off a coup.

Granted, it's a fucking long shot that he'd listen to anyone.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Trump only listens to people who tell him what he wants to hear.

How do you remove a cult leader like that?

[–] [email protected] 35 points 5 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 22 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Convicted felon, didn't get cuffs

Got shot, still grifting.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Needs to be nuked from orbit, just to be sure

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Well, many people are saying it, not just Democrats. Just the other day, the biggest manliest Republican ran up to me with tears streaming down his face, and he fell on his knees, and he said "Sir, sir! Our orange god-emperor is actually very very old and in obvious mental decline! He needs to drop out right now!"

[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Very good people, the best people.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (11 children)

I kind of fear what comes next after Trump (he is old and I can't imagine him serving a full term).

  1. Can Trump transfer his cult to a successor with a mere endorsement and forever continue a cycle of scrambling to vote for this "last" democrat.
  2. His cult fizzles out and the Republican party splits support over multiple candidates.
  3. A person like DeSantis (less of a narcisstic idiot and more a true representive of Republican hatred) takes over and is worse than Trump.
[–] [email protected] 44 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

He will never willingly let go of his control over his base. Trump doesn't give a single fuck about the MAGA movement beyond the fact that it is his own personal army of zombie sycophants.

His followers may be dogmatic about MAGA, but I can assure you that Trump himself is not. If he dropped dead tomorrow MAGA would instantaneously begin fizzling out, and it would fracture the Republican party.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 months ago (5 children)

Based on what my true-crime cult obsessed friend has said on the matter, option 2 is probably the most likely; though the party at large will always rally behind whoever the nominee is, because that's how Republicans operate.

DeSantis already tried to court the cult of Trump, and he failed because these cults of personality are entirely fixed around their leader. As my buddy described it, it's not like a hydra where you can cut the head off and the cult keeps going. Once the leader is gone, they fizzle out. Even in the case of endorsing a successor, I can't imagine the group having the same kind of following for the same reason - without Trump, the Flavor-Aid sours. There will be new leaders, but they'll have to work to sway the core voters in the way that Trump has. And the Flavor-Aid is a perfect metaphor, because Trump sounds exactly like Jim Jones according to my friend.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago (1 children)

This is the first time in the wild that I have seen someone correctly mention "Flavor-Aid" instead of "Kool-Aid" in reference to Jim Jones.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Cults of personality are never quite the same once the big personality passes. They tend to fragment, shrink, or otherwise fade away. Members may join other high control organizations, but they won't be united.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago

Can Trump transfer his cult to a successor with a mere endorsement and forever continue a cycle of scrambling to vote for this "last" democrat.

Trump cares about not going to jail and Trump in approximately equal amounts. No way he lets someone else take the wheel. If he somehow became president again he'd start looking at repealing the 22nd before he'd endorse anyone else.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Bitch so old he interned for Mussolini.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Say whatever you want about the advisability of Biden dropping out, it is going to make the best fucking content.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Real leftist unity right here. Either way it's gonna be 10 times more interesting than biden vs trump.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Can someone please lift the interesting curse. Can we have boring back?

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago (12 children)

Oh.. it's mocking when Dems do it..

Why isn't it just behavioural parity?

Are both sides not allowed to behave the same? Be equal?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago

The very same media keeps asking democrats to go more to the right to act the moderate / centrist role, why isn't that any good when they copy this from Republicans? /s

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago (2 children)

We just need a maximum age for running for president. Id like my president's to be of a normal working age. If you're going to be over 65 by the end of the term then that's too old imo since they would be older than 5/6 of the population.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago

Turnabout is fair play :3

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago

You love to see it.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago (4 children)

179 year old man mocks 182 year old man for how old he is.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago

It’s not mocking to point out a fact.

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