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[–] [email protected] 211 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Because he IS too old. Biden did the right thing. Selflessly put the country before himself and listened to his party. I don't think Trump would ever have enough morals or integrity to do that in a million years unfortunately. So we'll have to beat the old loon and his band of circus freaks at the polls, again.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 5 months ago (8 children)

Biden was never supposed to run for a second term, and then dragged his feet until the very last minute. The selfless thing would’ve been to step aside for someone younger before the race began

[–] [email protected] 28 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Yeah, he fucked over everyone by participating in the primaries.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Not that I'm suggesting that this was intentional or that he did right to wait, but there are a few upsides. Trump and the Republicans were fully prepared and frothing to take on that blubbering old man from that last debate, but now they're actually going to make a case for Trump over a (hopefully) real contender. And many Democrat voters went from feeling defeated and apathetic, potentially enough to not even bother voting, to being charged with a second chance and a (again, hopefully) more exciting candidate to support. If Biden had declared his intention not to run again before the primaries, the Republicans would have had much longer to prepare and pick apart someone who wasn't such an easy target, and Dems would have been infighting over the nuances of a dozen candidates and pissed off at each other. And, if Harris is the presumptive nomination, for better or worse, the knee jerk reaction from the Right will probably be to play up the racist and sexist angles, which should drive moderates away from the right, not away from Harris.

It's all conjecture, but I only see this as a net positive compared to where we were yesterday.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 months ago

More importantly imo: it put Biden and the Dems in the news and overshadowed the attempted assassination. Which kept its new cycle short and put the dems back on top. Trump hates being out of the news, and was right that the media wants him back because they loved the numbers he provided. The DNC should make a circus out of this to keep it in the news and with constant breaking news events. It’s stupid, and I hate it, but it would help them win.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I mean, 5d chess if true.

but that would be a dangerous, stupid game - and we know they would never do that, right? right?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

its more of a mr bean dodging a certain death by finding a penny after wandering into a closed off area scenario, but I'll take it.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago (18 children)

agreed, never should have tried for the second bite.

however... dems now have an opportunity to own the news cycle from here until the election. if they do even a halfway decent job, we start trending from "narrow loss" -> "political landslide".

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

... Unlike Johnson, who didn't. And that worked out well for president Humphries in '68.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I think most people had no idea he was significantly declining, hence the astonishment at the debate. And some people around him seem to have been encouraging the denial (or worse). I'm unclear if he was doing better many months ago before primaries.

I can't imagine how insulated and reliant on advisors and other employees the president becomes. Quickly surrounded by people who have no interest in being the bearer of bad news. Probably akin to billionaires, and we see what they mutate into (some kind of Musk-like creature).

I'm so relieved that Biden was able to come to this painful decision, even if it was late. On the bright side, at least there's less time for the GOP to smear the new nominee. And no more televised convention for them to host the lies for free.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago

Still far more selfless than Trump though. I'm sure we can absolutely agree there.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Everyone can look like a genius with hindsight.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

And everyone should have foreseen the age problem with Biden running a second term....

I think most will agree, dnc should have started pushing another candidate the week after jan6.

Biden himself ran on being one term.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago
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[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago

He only planned to serve one term? I'm sure you have a source for that...?