I will vote for any Democrat but I would prefer it not be Kamala
this post was submitted on 19 Jul 2024
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I preferred not to vote for Biden but he turned out to be a good president.
He turned out to be a decent president, except for the massive, glaring failure to build any sort of meaningful bulwark against fascism. He had, like, the absolute best justification and mandate to aggressively crack down on the neofascists with Jan 6, but he pussyfooted around and dragged his feet on fucking everything so much that basically nothing has been dealt with or constructively changed since the coup attempt occurred.
I love how you skip the part where Congress blocked everything the SCotUS didn't. That's so efficient.
There are a LOT of things he could have done in a lot of areas that require neither Congress nor the courts.
Not to mention, he was so goddamn focused on “reaching across the aisle” that he picked a guy for AG that clearly doesn’t have a strong interest in, you know, preventing the fascists from winning, because he’s in the same party as the fascists.
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I'd vote for AOC, tbh
Bernie is too old, she'd be my top pick in Congress by far.
But the Party probably wants to go maximum hail corporate neoliberal, especially when there isn't a pesky primary to deal with, because thats what they're paid to do.
You know, someone who will come to continue to protect our beloved economy... from our society and the needs of our people. Better than fascism, but just extending the meaningless subsistence in service to the owner class.
AOC isn’t even in the conversation though. I think she’d face fierce opposition to even getting the nomination. She’s a pretty divisive figure.
She’s a pretty divisive figure.
Not for anything she does, AFAICT.
Republicans are terrified of her. She's young, attractive, charismatic, outspoken, and intelligent to say nothing of her being a woman of color. They are giving her the full Hillary treatment. It seems like she'll be a bit harder for them to tarnish that way, but not for lack of trying.
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The fact that she’s a conservative bogeyman is kind of besides the point. The neoliberal, corporate-friendly leadership of the DNC would NEVER let her get close to the nomination. They did the same thing to Bernie 8 and 4 years ago.
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yeah but the democratic party would rather lose the election than nominate her.
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And Katy Porter
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She's not wrong.
Exactly. Like yeah girl spit your facts, but we will take what we can get and the age and health resilience are legitimate concerns we've been having. Kamala solves the age issue, that's progress to me. I don't want the president to be a puppet of someone who no one voted for.
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The courts are bad now people think, wait till more seats are replaced.
People don’t understand what a big deal this is. Corrupting the trusted-by-tradition institutions like the courts is one way fascists can get the whole country in a chokehold.
Gunned down a bunch of BLM protestors? Eh, they were asking for it. Probation.
Climate change demonstration? 10 years
We’re already about 60% of the way there. It’s already happening that people are committing really major crimes and it’s okay if they’re on the right team.
VOTE
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Ugh. I agree that Kamala sucks, but I think it’d be a mistake to try to go with anyone else at this point. She has a pulse, a functional brain, lots of political experience, a long life ahead of her, and yeah, she’s made some terrible decisions and gaffs in her career, just like Joe Biden.
I don’t like that she was a cop, but Joe Biden chaired the Senate Judiciary committee for like 100 years, and got us Clarence Thomas, so…nobody has the moral high ground here.
We just need to win, and frankly I think if we try to go with someone new and untested, we’ll lose. We’ve been in a “lesser of two evils” situation for some time now.
There's weeks left to go 'til the convention, plenty of time to run an actual primary if the DNC wanted to.
Ideally, yeah, but think about the logistics of pulling something like that off. And would it be a full primary redo? Like fresh ballots sent out to all dems? Or do you mean a mini primary just with the existing delegates? Because we already voted in the Democratic primary election…
I’m just really trying to be pragmatic about this, I can’t imagine a scenario where we pull this off and come out stronger. I would love to be wrong.
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Nothing hurts a political campaign more than uncertainty.
I’ll bet the MAGA camp is loving this shit right now.
They are probably pushing it.
They absolutely are. And they’re doing it right in our faces.
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I'm going to vote Democrat.
Straight ticket.
Just like every freaking year because i'm too scared to vote Fully Automated Luxury Gay Space Communist Party.
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eh I'll take Kamela. It'd be hillarious to see a racist beaten by a black woman
I'd do it just to own the cons
I'm voting for the administration that will keep democracy alive in our country.
And it's 🔵🔵🔵
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Just remember that during the 2016 election, the "If not Bernie, then Trump" bros turned out to be Russian interference.
I wouldn't be surprised if it's just Russia trying to split the Dem base.
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Harris has done so little I had to think for a second to remember what her name was. Other VP have really gotten coverage, like Pence or Gore. But Harris has really stayed mostly on the sidelines.
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Kamala and AOC would be a lit ticket. I still think we're barreling towards another Reagan era victory by doing this. But that "medical emergency" + instant COVID was almost a sign from the universe.
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I'd prefer Buttigieg simply because he is such an effective communicator. Other than that I'd prefer someone much more leftist than him.
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She's not wrong. The only people I know who support / like Kamala work in the administration
Kamala is a brown lady cop. EVERYONE hates her and she was kept out of the spotlight for a reason.
If we do drop Biden, she is it. But anyone leaping at that is a useful idiot, at best
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The whole "but they might not be on the ballot in Ohio" rings a lot less worrisome when you see that Trump is +9 in the state vs Biden:
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Well it's risky either way. That said Kamala as vp was supposed to represent the "in case of emergency break glass" younger democrat - not too left, just neolib enough for the party, yet younger - that would step in if Biden's age became an issue.
It's now an issue and she didn't play a role in reassuring the public, so...
As damning as it is to the US, the best bet for winning is a good-looking, smooth-talking white guy who will look presidential when compared with Trump.
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