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I hadn't gone exploring through the settings till now. You can add a share button for your instance by going to Settings > Sharing > Add sharing method. After that you just paste in your instance URL (ex. https://lemmy.ca for me). The steps are the same for both Lemmy and Mastodon

Makes it much easier to share content here :)

As for the setting I was looking for, press "J" to jump to the next article

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 5 months ago (3 children)

My thoughts: Please don't make Lemmy a linkdump. Only post that in the news communities or if you're genuinely interested in a discussion. And then add some text of your own, what you'd like to discuss about that, what you find interesting about it or a short summary for people to decide whether they want to click on the link.

I see a lot of news just dumped to Lemmy with 0 interaction or engagement. And it's often duplicated because I already have a feedreader. I think that's more a use-case for Mastodon.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago (1 children)

So, just to split hairs: Lemmy is a link aggregator, so it's really better suited for this than Mastodon by design. BTW, please don't make Mastodon a linkdump (I use that more than Lemmy) 🙂

Also, if you're using a feed reader and Lemmy for news, then yes. There will be duplicates, but that is pretty much a problem in your setup, isn't it? Can't really fault either app for it.

All that said, I completely agree that just posting an URL without context or comment is unhelpful on any social platform. It's always good to know what has motivated someone else to share a news item (especially in politics and other sports!).

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Hmmh. I think I sometimes forget that 'link aggregator' is also in the title. Maybe I'm just not the type for a link aggregator. But nonetheless I use (and like) this platform. It may very well be the case that I'm using it wrong. And a "social" link/news aggregator is yet another thing than one without the "social". So maybe I'm right because it isn't social without the engagement.

I mean we're not Hacker News or Reddit either. And in the end I like diversity. I think it's more a "me"-problem. And the correct solution is: I get a tool to hide or mark empty posts. That'd allow people to do it and me not being bothered by it if I don't like.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I also agree that Lemmy (largely in imitation of Reddit) skews more social than just a link aggregator, so I'm not arguing you personally are doing it wrong. Tbh it feels more like an "everything forum", but like I said — splitting hairs. That's engagement, too 🙂

A tool or algorithm that hides or just deprioritises empty posts would certainly be useful, maybe even as a core feature in future releases of Lemmy?

For my part, I'd like to be able to hide posts based on the source URL [cough, screenrant, cough], same as blocking users or whole instances. Little, user-level filters like that could make a big difference in the individual experience.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Honestly, I've shifted my attention towards PieFed during the last few days. I'm not waiting for the Lemmy devs to do it. Piefed the same Fediverse, just a different server software. Sadly not yet feature-complete or an equal competitor to Lemmy... And it has a long way to go... But the developer is much more progressive, open to new features... And it's written in Python so I could do it myself. And I will most likely do it. (And since this sounds like an advertisement: There are still some (lots of) rough edges in that project. Quite some things are missing and for example a phone app isn't even on the roadmap as of today.)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Interesting, not the first recommendation I've had of Piefed. And in your case, choosing a platform.where you can actively contribute is ...really the way it should be. Direct and active influence on tools used.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

That's a good point, I try to post a few relevant pieces each time and add context in the post body. Still, not all posts are good and so I'm open to people pointing it out when it happens :)

A lot of my RSS feed is for healthcare content or local news, and those communities don't have much content otherwise. I'll see about trying to get more of a discussion going for each of the posts I share

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

I guess we all have a vision for Lemmy anyways. I think two things I'd like to see more often are body text underneath posts (as I said, this isn't Mastodon) and unconditional upvoting of replies if you get one. That shows the other side that you've read it and appreciate they typed something for you. At some point I think I'm going to write a post about nice behaviour here. I have to think about it some more... And this is a diverse place anyways, other people might like different things.

Yeah, and fostering engagement is difficult. Always has been. I don't think artificial linkdumping helps... It could as well kill engagement if it's not honest and genuine. But having inactive communities also doesn't get us anywhere. It's difficult to do it right.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

At some point I think I’m going to write a post about nice behaviour here. I have to think about it some more… And this is a diverse place anyways, other people might like different things.

I'd read something like that :)

Sometimes we also don't think about how we could be doing something better. Another thing that comes to mind, which I sometimes forget, is upvoting the post that you are commenting on. Usually if I'm commenting, I want more people to see and join the discussion, but I forget to upvote before leaving the tab

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

unconditional upvoting of replies if you get one. That shows the other side that you've read it and appreciate they typed something for you.

I definitely use "upvote = mark as read" so I'm with you on that. 😆

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

This is cool. I was able to add the Sharing option as you described, but I don't see how to share still when I'm viewing my feed.

~~There is no "share" icon or link, that I can see.~~

Ohhh, the share link is only visible in the default view. I use Reading Mode exclusively and it's not shown there. :(

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

That's pretty cool, glad to see the fediverse is adopted (if not directly implemented) in other applications 👍