The Pacific Ocean is massive and if a ship turns off its transponder it is invisible unless you have satellites in your game. Ships can easily disappear in the Pacific even with modern search and rescues when people really really want to find a ship[ in trouble, they sometimes can't. I have a friend that sails those waters and there are endless small islands, often uninhabited where he stays in small bays and inlets.
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Does he have any stories of weird/strange things he saw/heard on those small uninhabited islans?
Nothing strange about the islands apart from him raving about the stunning beaches, waterfalls, and colorful wildlife. He once found a bale of weed, he kept it and never returned to that particular
island. The strange stories he has all occurred out on the ocean. Swimming in bioluminescent water.
A massive shape nearly 100m long surfaced his bow in the middle of the night and paced him
for hours. It turned out to be a sub.
He has many stories about the ocean, he is convinced he saw UFOs, not necessarily aliens but definitely
unidentified and very unusual crafts and he saw them go into the water.
I believe him, he is not the type to be into conspiracies or make things up. He embellishes his stories a little but
that is just him being a good storyteller. He was in the military and navy for 40 years so he knows the ocean well.
The Pacific Ocean is an enormous space, there are military outposts but due to its size, they are few and far between.
The Arctic is much much more surveilled due to all the big countries wanting a piece of it and with climate change
opening the Bering Strait, this becomes very valuable.
Good luck with your game, may it fare well and be profitable to you.
I think a submarine, even of a hostile country, is probably your best option for a 100m-long underwater shadow rising in front of your boat. Much better than any living creature.
Damn! Those are some amazing stories. Thanks for sharing.
There will likely be fancy sci-fi technology that would explain why the satellites can’t find the ship. Maybe a light reflecting cloak but I want to make it grounded whenever possible.
You’re given me a lot to think about.
Maybe there were so many satellites that at some point two collided and caused a bunch of space debris, which makes sending up satellites incredibly difficult and satellite usage limited to mostly communication?
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How about an NPT-style treaty? The satellites got sensitive enough to detect ballistic missile submarines (or the arctic ice melted so that they can't hide under the ice). Everyone realised that it would be catastrophic for nuclear nations not to have to worry about a retaliatory strike, so the nations made an agreement that none of them would scan the oceans with satellites.
satellites got sensitive enough to detect ballistic missile submarines
HOW?!
Well if it was a flying object that was unidentified it was indeed a UFO, but if it went swimming it was a USO or a UDO.
The Pacific Ocean is massive and if a ship turns off its transponder it is invisible unless you have satellites in your game.
So it seems like the key will be some combination of deactivating the transponder, getting away from other ships, being low profile in various EM wavelengths (difficult if it's also large), traveling with a significant cloud cover (hurricane?), escaping detection by military submarines and other sonar sources, and ending up in a place and condition where they're sheltered from all of the above. This seems very nearly impossible if everyone is already hunting for our intrepid vessel, but if there's some reason for people not to be looking right away, I can imagine plausible scenarios where the data takes long enough to come together for the necessary storytelling beats to play out.
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Anywhere on this map that isn't full of boats. South Indian Ocean woukd be my guess: 
Oh wow! Didn’t know that existed. Thanks for sharing.
South Indian Ocean has been mentioned a few times now. 🤔
Might also want to prioritize areas of low military significance - even if there are no commercial ships, you don't want areas where spy satellites are likely to be looking around for unknown vessels
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Literally anywhere outside the shipping lanes in the Pacific would do it. Even with satellite coverage, a large ship is still a tiny dot.
Fair enough. The ocean is fucking huge.
Yep. There is even a part of the Pacific that is on the opposite side of another part of the Pacific. The Pacific is also home to Point Nemo with is the place on the ocean farthest away from land.
Absolutely bonkers how large it is.
Nice try, Mr. Bezos
Pretty close there. 🤫
It depends what you are hiding from. If you want to avoid notice from random encounters, you would want to head out to sea. So long as you're over the horizon from any shipping lanes, you're as close to invisible as you can get.
If your goal is to evade an active military search, you want clutter, and a lot of it. Military radar can sweep vast areas quickly. Satellites can spot ships at sea, so long as the sky is clear enough. Islands and coastline can mess with these however. Get into an out of the way bay, and throw up camo netting, and your ship is now just another bit of rock to the satellites, and it's part of the noise to radar. The cost of this cover is that it is also attractive to random tourist boats, or fishing boats.
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Maybe some place off the coast of Antarctica? It’s got a very low population of researchers. You could probably find a fairly hidden bay or harbour to park in.
That’s a strong contender. Could also possibly be a gameplay mechanic with the outside of the ship being freezing and holes possibly let that cold in.
Overall I’m leaning more towards it being set in warmer waters for the sake of some elements like being able to coral dive in the surrounding waters for potential puzzle solutions.
Point Nemo. It’s the farthest point from land in the world.
They use silver nitrate injection to control hurricanes then travel in their eye
Travelling in a hurricane’s eye is pretty damn awesome.
Realistically wouldn’t a 24/7 twister in the ocean not draw a lot of attention? Or do those exist?
They only need them when they need to travel.
The trouble then becomes crossing the equator since (a) there’s probably a lot more satellite coverage at the equator and (b) hurricanes don’t cross the equator
That’s true. Could be some kind of emergency system or a last minute resort when they are on the verge of getting caught.
Most of the ocean you won't be detected in. There's just nobody looking for anyone out there. So stay away from eezs and littoral zones and you ll be alone in no time.
Thanks! Haven’t heard of those. I’ll look em up!
It would be invisible to radar once it’s over the horizon, but ships are always visible to satellites, the larger the easier to spot.
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I don't think the north and south poles have much satellite coverage due to how orbits work, so maybe in the arctic or antarctic oceans, but they're pretty treacherous, so probably somewhere in the Pacific or southern Indian oceans?
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Thought this was a play on that "sovereign AI ship" article from earlier.
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I suspect the motive of the protagonist will affect the answer to your question. What are they doing out there? If the goal is to catch fish, for example, maybe don't go somewhere with no fish, right?
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Part of it would depend on whether or not it has, as required of all self propelled ships above a low threshold GRT, an AIS transceiver. If it's got one, and it's on, I can find the ship in seconds (access to multiple large terrestrial and satellite AIS systems at work).
But I guess if they never intend to go anywhere near Port State Control, they could just turn their AIS off. People do it all the time to violate sanctions, avoid pirates, etc.
Ok that’s a lot of info I wasn’t aware of. Thanks!!
So this ship doesn’t want to go to port so to remain as hidden as possible. I’m imagining smaller vessels would deliver supplies to the ship along its route. So any laws won’t be really an issue if no countries know about the ship.
underwater?
Point Nemo
What are you trying to smuggle bruh?
Just trying to have a fun time without interruptions. 🍾🎊
The classic bermuda triangle.
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