Totally not stranded, according to Boeing.
this post was submitted on 30 Jun 2024
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They aren't stranded because there is the emergency capsule to get them back.
Classic corporate doublespeak and half truths.
They’re not stranded because the part of the capsule that isn’t working has multiple redundancy and is intended to burn up on reentry anyway.
Starliner is perfectly capable of leaving the ISS whenever they want, but they would be unable to continue collecting data on the thruster shutoff (again, because it would burn up in the atmosphere).
Completely untrue. There are currently only 3 human-rated spacecraft docked to the ISS and none of them are set aside as some sort of emergency capsule. There's no trickery here. The number of astronauts on board is equal to the number of seats available for them to ride back home in. The only reason they aren't stranded is because Starliner is still fully capable of undocking and taking them home whenever necessary. If it wasn't, then they would actually be stranded with no alternative way back beyond straping them to the floor of Dragon.
Getting strapped to the floor of a Dragon sounds like a great plot for a space thriller
Almost happened to Frank Rubio when the radiator blew on his ride.
Wow, that's a great fucking read!
Except the "emergency capsule" is all of them, including Starliner. Because Starliner is perfectly capable of returning to earth safely.
Because every thruster that has shut down has hot fired okay, and the known helium leaks still leave enough margin to cover several multiples of the 5 hours or so of RCS operation that you need to get to landing.
I thought one thruster has been permanently disabled now? Not that that's a major problem, but it does eat into their redundancy somewhat.
Yeah that's right, they've decided to not use one of the 5 again because of performance inconsistencies.
As long as they didn’t bring any whistles with them they’ll be fine!
Just pining for the microgravity.
I mean, Boeing hasn't killed them in a fireball of death, hurtling at 18 thousand kph to the earth. The media has this totally wrong, for now. Everything is totally fine, at this time.
The people in every one of these Starliner threads seemingly hoping for the worst case scenario to occur just so they can dunk on Boeing for it are disturbing
Seriously, some of the comments and their phrasing actively gave me flashbacks to my days on stan twitter.
I wish Stan Twitter had never started his company, at all.
Lol. People want Boeing to fail, because they're corrupt, lying, poorly engineered pieces of shit riding on bribed politicians. They've already deliberately caused the deaths of hundreds of people due to willful and deliberate negligence to save a buck.
Nobody's wanting the astronauts to die. And they won't, they're safe on the space station, and there are multiple options to get them home safe even if they have to abandon the POS Starliner to do it.
I'm not talking about people who just want Boeing to fail, I'm talking about the ones who think the best path to changing things is if they publicly kill two astronauts. eg. See the "morally gray" comment below
The best case scenario is that boeing is put out of business and nobody else dies for some CEO's paycheck.
There are 16 thrusters on the service module and they only need like 4. One is malfunctioning. They're trying to diagnose the problem to fix it for next time since the service module burns up on reentry.
Also, they totally know where their luggage is, it'll just take a couple of days to show up.
"Oh yeah, are you sure about that? Then why does my AirTag say it's already landed on Jupiter, hmm? I'd like to speak to your manager."
I only want to retrieve my luggage, my child
Common mistake, AirTags don't work in space because there is no air.
That would imply there's an Apple device connected to the internet on Jupiter.
You can't prove there isn't!
You could make a religion out of this.
People in prison aren't locked up, they're just taking their time to come out.
Boeing:
Guys!! Good news! You're not stranded! We just can't get you back for a couple of mo...er...weeks! Yeah! That's the ticket!
Astronauts:
.....
"Apollo returns, a Boeing story"
"Huston, we have a problem.... "
....ok we figured it out, now guys you'll have to build a few things. First thing, you'll have to go into the garbage disposal and using plastic bags please collect small bundles of poop. Mix the poop with hydrochloric acid and make them into hexagonal shapes 6" tall by 2" thick. Now we'll need one of you to get the flu... Go find a vial left by the ruzzians. Don't worry, we got the antidote down here. Okay next collect all the snot and mix it up with 10% gelatin. Finally, you'll have to go outside and patch the heat shield using the gelatine as glue....
As it turns out, actually, WE are the ones who are stranded.
Space, the safest place from Boeing assassins.
SPACE!
The one place uncorrupted by capitalism!
That is clearly a meaning of "not stranded" I was previously unfamiliar with.
They're not. The ship has 1 bad thruster, but need like a dozen to fail to make re-entry impossible. They could leave right now and everything would be just fine.
The thing is the module that's malfunctioning doesn't survive re-entry, so the only time to investigate the problem is before they head back.
will there be hunger games at the ISS if supplies run thin ?
Maybe space stations should have lifeboats. Ocean liners must have them, why not the ISS?
They functionally do, at almost all points in time there are enough capsules docked to the station for all astronauts to be able to return to Earth. The starliner capsule is currently able to return if needed, they are having it stay up there a bit longer to check things out to better understand why the one thruster is bad.
I hope they sue.....
Boeing: yes, they got no chance at all.
If I were thw astronauts I'd refuse to take the starliner back down.