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Gnome devs : we broke the toilet extension. Your pokemons have nowhere to shit and piss.
Pokemon trainers : why the fuck is the toilet an extension. Shouldn't it be part of the DE?
Gnome devs : we believe the toilet feature is unnecessary, so it wasn't and will never be implemented.
Note : I've barely used gnome in my life so it's based on memes I've seen about gnome.
The only thing you got wrong is that the toilet extension would be a third-party thing, and Gnome devs would actively insult anyone who dared be upset they broke it.
I was gonna say that it was a third party extension, but then I thought that gnomes users would infer that pretty easily.
Long time Gnome user here: I like the general Gnome simplicity of use and workflow and got used to it, but I'm really tired of having to install extensions for very basic things, and of it messing all my extensions on each version upgrade, so I have to reinstall everything. I started experimenting with KDE, and looking forward to cosmic.
Yeah, KDE's basically at the point you don't need GNOME imo, it's so customizable you can make it basically look/function the same as GNOME without having to put up with GNOME's dumber decisions
I tend to flip flop, I like some things in GNOME better, but the lack of customization always brings me back to KDE after a while (Plasma, whatever)
It's close to alpha! I don't think it'll be in a good enough state for me (Nvidia GPU), but maybe someday.
When I first started on Linux with Fedora probably a little over 15 years ago, I used gnome just because it was different. At some point I played with Enlightenment, and now I use KDE. It was different when I was more interested in screwing around with my system. Now that I use it for work, I just need everything to be as reliable, persistent, and easy as possible. I haven't used gnome in many years, but I hear these stories all the time and I just don't want to deal with something that'll wrench my workflow when I have other shit to do and no time to play diagnostics.
Yeah, Cosmic looks really nice. Their app store interface needs a bit of modernization work, but otherwise, it looks well polished.
It's more like, there is one way to go to the toilet but it involves going into a small porcelain cup. They refuse to admit that's not practical, or that it doesn't work for everybody, or allow people to use anything else. You will use the little porcelain cup no matter how absurd it is and that's it.
Reminds me of twitch plays pokemon, putting a pokemon in the pc was akin to a death sentence since they often 'accidentally' released them later
Not just a death sentence for that Pokémon, approaching the PC was a potential game over!
I have still nightmares of Bloody Sunday.
I love the Gnome workflow, but holy shit, I get the hate. Why doesn't it support a lockscreen that's not gdm?
I actually think general Gnome workflow is pretty alright (even if I prefer other things), but yeah, Gnome devs seem to like. Actively hate their users?
Do not
~~like come on man, it's not even a Vaporeon!~~
JONKER NOOO
I've quite enjoyed gnome so far. What are your complaints with it? Granted I don't think I have actually used another DE but I genuinely don't run into issues with gnome and the design is good enough imo.
What's your preferred DE and why?
My complaint with Gnome is just one, but it is overbearing: Gnome devs want to decide what is best for you, which stinks and goes against the very fundament of open software. But would not per se be a problem -- If they hadn't also decided that a bunch of things that are considered basic features that every other DE and even other OSes have implemented for the past 20 years are, in fact, unnecessary.
Consider the humble System Tray.
Gnome removed the System Tray in favour of a "Control Center". And the Control Center works really well -- For inbuilt Gnome stuff and applications that were written for Gnome. But stuff that is DE agnostic, or god forbid, ported over from another OS? Some of them expect a tray to be there. Have functionality that doesn't work without one. Or do work but are janky. Gnome doesn't offer a system tray. You have to install a third party extension, which would also be fine... Except every time Gnome updates every other third party extension breaks.
And like, sure, it's not Gnome Devs' job to ensure the operability of third party addons, but that you need them to begin with is a failure. Gnome's attitude towards everything seems to be "$#¨$ you, like just actually go &%$# yourself. You do things our way or you use something else. We have decided these things are useless, if you think they are necessary you are a $&@# and %$#$ you and the horse you rode in on"
As for my personal favourite DE? KDE Plasma. It's not something I'd ever recommend to a newcomer, but I like it precisely because of how many moving parts it has. I can make my system look, feel, and act just the way I like it. It's like the polar opposite of Gnome really.
Gnome devs want to decide what is best for you
Rebuttal: I’m extremely fickle, so someone else making choices for me is what I need. In KDE I ~~spent~~ wasted days customizing and just gave up in the end. It’s the same idea as using prettier instead of using your own lint rules: you stop wasting time and just do the thing you’re there to do.
In general, for configs (linting, neovim, etc), I prefer taking something really good and tweaking the parts I dislike—which is the model GNOME uses. Probabilistically, it’s exponentially likely that your preferences are only a little bit away from someone else—just use their thing and spend 15 minutes tweaking them.
Who uses Gnome these days? i have used the forks Cinnamon or MATE, since gnome shell was introduced.
It's great that there're so many good window managers to choose from.
A majority? I mean use something else if you like them better, no need to shit on GNOME
Probably most desktop Linux users? ...
I love gnome. People love KDE but I think it's not very good.
People who like gnome
I think it's the majority, still. Not sure if that's technically changed to KDE with Steam Decks though.
Asking "who still uses $thing", where $thing is the most popular thing in its category, is peak Lemmy.
Unpopular opinion: Gnome software is pretty solid, and if your computer usage patterns overlap with their design, it is quite a lovely DE. I'd rather have something that works well, even if it doesn't do everything under the sun.
... Except when it doesn't.
I use Gnome at work, on an older (supposedly stable) version of RedHat and there are a few ways it breaks, but when it does, it Breaks Bad. I would be fine with said breakages if it were not trying to claim focussing on having lesser bugs and in turn reducing customisability to such low levels that changing stuff like animation speed (which, by default is set to productivity destroying speeds), is not possible from the default repos.
KDE and related applications are much more tolerable and when I find a bug I tend to be happy to report.
This is even more relevant to Digimon. I have no idea of whether their file format is supported, or how digiworld differs on OS's. I'd have to guess it's some type of web protocol? Dunno...
Edit: dug back into my childhood, the Digiworld is stored on a cluster of servers, so those are pretty likely going to be some flavor of linux. Local PC client applications are used for storing Digimon locally IIRC, and we also see in this clip that it appears that the guys are using windows 95 or something similar.
Still alot of questions but
So you're a Cinnamon lover then huh?
Plasma fan and aspiring Cosmonaut, though I have Swayed in the past and have a tendency to get Hypr.
Cinnamon is pretty dope
I use Plasma because I'm literally this, but Cinnamon is what I'd recommend to people who say they want something "familiar looking but that just gets out of the way so you can start using your computer to do shit" -- Which ironically is what Gnome purports itself to be.
I mean, Cinnamon is really just Gnome 2 with new devs.
I mean. Yes. But Gnome 2 was actually good. It was before the Gnome team caught the "cutting out literally everything for seemingly no reason" disease.
Before they started thinking they knew better than everyone else.
