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Fash gonna fash, that's why we gotta always be ready to bash bash bash.

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Congress adopted In God We Trust over E Pluribus Unum and added Under God to the Pledge of Allegiance in the 50's in response to the Red Scare and America has been pretty fanatical about it since then.

I'd suspect it's reaction to large cultural shifts in the last couple of decades - including gay and trans rights, George Floyd and increased racial integration in media, me too, etc. For whatever reason, perhaps loss aversion, many people tend to react angrily and violently to change and the threat of change. Perhaps it's analogous to how communist movements in the early 20th century led to fascist movements a decade or two later.

I also don't think it's the US only, so you can't put it all on Trump. I'd argue Trump and similar figures around the world are the result of the above counter-reaction.

I’m pretty sure that would be ex uno, plura

I would argue the difference between republicans and conservatives is the fanaticism. Conservatism is believing that we want to do the most good things we can afford, but we have to be conservative in our estimates of what we can afford. That is the only belief inherent to being conservative. I would likewise define the core belief of Liberalism that we have to take care of many basic needs, and figure out how to pay for it, even if it creates hardship. I greatly respect that point of view, and feel the best answer for society lies somewhere between the two.

Republicanism doesn’t care about conservatism any more; I vote for middle of the road Democrats as a conservative. The abortion/gun/god crap is ridiculous.

Radicals radicalize radicals.

Only stable conditions, equaliberiam or entropy deradicalize.

Social was a flash point. Large parts of society interacted for the first time. Echo chambers formed, energy level increase, radical leave the bubbles and new groups militerize in defense.

It made less sense to people out of the loop though. Nazis, antifa, police are raciest, lgbtq, Christian nationalism, socialism, etc. All of these ideas were subcultures that grew bubble online cause they could (much like the Arab spring), and the radicals that formed and took action made big moves from everyone else's ignorance.

The majority didn't have the means, and frankly still don't, to hold the concepts or ideas as unique groups so instead they mapped onto the two party system warts and all. Because "right wing" was Republican the opposing side told everyone "right wing" is Republican. So Republican had to either disavow or defend them, but when these groups wanted to act politically they had almost no choice but to fit in predefined parties.

Its been mostly good, that's the crazy thing, gay rights, trans rights, police reforms, the DoJ has how many anti trust cases going on now?, how unions are forming?, etc

why? because it's all they have left.

demographics are changing. their population is aging. their kids hate the way they live and move away.

It's kinda funny how fanatically people point out that it's the other side that's the problem.

America has always rejected fanaticism

Right... the country that literally perfected white supremacism has "always rejected fanaticism" - I guess in your book rejecting white supremacism counts as fanaticism, then?