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[–] [email protected] 71 points 4 months ago (5 children)

Struwwelpeter. We had an English copy handed down by my grandfather. It's insane.

Example: "Die gar traurige Geschichte mit dem Feuerzeug ("The Very Sad Tale with the Matches"): A girl plays with matches, accidentally ignites herself and burns to death. Only her cats mourn her."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Struwwelpeter

[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 months ago

I still have my toddler books with the graphic Struwwelpeter running in with shears and cutting the thumbs off the boy who wouldn’t stop sucking them.

It’s a… β€œnostalgic” childhood trauma?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago (2 children)

("The Story of the Wild Huntsman") is the only story not primarily focused on children. In it, a hare steals a hunter's musket and eyeglasses and begins to hunt the hunter. In the ensuing chaos, the hare's child is burned by hot coffee and the hunter jumps into a well.

lol wut?

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Aww cute bunnies!

Watership down.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago

I just got the graphic novel for my ten year old niece. She likes the bunnies. I am a great uncle.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, definitely not kid friendly. I'd much rather give them a light-hearted story about puppies, like The Plague Dogs.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Not Old Yeller, or Where The Red Fern Grows?

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 4 months ago

The children's bible. /s

[–] [email protected] 37 points 4 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 33 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Coraline is pretty intense.

A quote from Neil Gaiman about his editor's daughter, who served as the book's first audience

I told her, "You know, we kind of have you to thank for all this, because you weren’t scared by it." And she said, "Actually, I was terrified. But I wanted to know what happened next. I knew if I let anybody know I was scared, I wouldn’t find out."

[–] [email protected] 28 points 4 months ago

Mrs Frisby and the Rats of NIMH. That author's imagination was daaaaark.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 4 months ago (3 children)

A lot of the original versions of the brothers Grimm stories. For example Cinderella, one of the sisters chops off bits of her feet so that she can try and get into the shoe Cinderella dropped. I think the Prince only figured it out because she's dripping in blood.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

A lot of those were meant to keep children in line. Also to teach girls that the only way they'll be able to get ahead in life is to marry into money.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

But it doesn't pay off for the stepsister at all. She's just bleeding, the story is about the triumph of The Grind- Cinderella stuck to virtue, hard work, etc.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

Well the lessons there were a) don't be a conniving bitch, and b) don't be a stepmom or stepsister.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

the Brothers Grimm versions were not the original versions of any of those fairytales! they were edgy remakes! idk why or how that thinking became so common or why I care so much!

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Where the Red Fern Grows (for older children)

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

Such a good book. But yeah even when at (all grown up) I read it to my son, I bawled

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Coraline. The book is significantly creepier than the movie and manages to perfectly strike the uncanny valley

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Is coralline supposed to be "kid friendly"? It's one of the few books I wasn't comfortable reading in alone in the dark, no way I let a kid read that

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 months ago

Yup, story goes that the publisher thought it was too scary for children, so Neil Gaiman, the author, told the publisher to read it to her daughter. The daughter said it wasn't scary, and so it was published as a children's book. Years later, the daughter said that she was actually scared but lied about it because she wanted to know the ending

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

The original Scary Stories to Tell in the Dark books, with the fucked up heroin withdrawal style illustrations

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

based. The chick from the spiderbite story STILL lives rent free in my memory, that, and the grim reaper pointing

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago (2 children)

This is great and all, but what I really need is an alternative picture of shel silverstein to put on the back of the book.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago (2 children)

A series of unfortunate events was pretty bad for me.

My grandpa kept buying them, and i read them because I didn't know how to not reqd a book given to me, but they definitely taught me how to say no to a gift.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I think The Velveteen Rabbit is pretty fucked.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It wouldn’t have been so bad if they didn’t burn everything at the end. I mean, I get that sanitation in that situation was pretty darn important, but it was the author’s choice to choose something that required that outcome. That ending made me sad for a long time. Definitely didn’t know how to handle it. Not sure I can even now.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I was probably a child when I last read it, so I might have some details wrong, but here's how I remember it:

A child is given a toy rabbit. A fairy visits the toy rabbit and gives it the gift of awareness. The child and the toy bond with each other and grow to love each other. Unfortunately, the child becomes dangerously ill, and after the sickness their possessions must be incinerated to prevent contamination. This includes the toy rabbit. However, the fairy arrives at the last minute, declaring that because the rabbit learned to love it was therefore a real rabbit, and with a wave of her wand transforms the toy into a living being and whisks it off to the woods were it lives happily ever after with the other rabbits.

So I guess my question is this - Do you think the velveteen rabbit and the fairy are real? Or is the fairy's magic an invention of the child's mind?

I think the narrative required the velveteen rabbit to be burned because it was so horrible. To the grown ups it's just velveteen, but to the child it's a dear friend. Even as children we know that being burned is horrible. So the child invents a solution where their toy can live happily ever after even after it's thrown in the fire.

I think there's definitely some Heaven and Hell symbolism to be had too. The velveteen rabbit was damned to hellfire unless it accepted love into its heart during its life. Then it is granted into the afterlife. In fact, you could say it was reincarnated into a higher spiritual form.

The story explores coping with loss as seen from the point of view of a child. Even though the velveteen rabbit was just a toy, the child has given it a soul. If you have a soul, when you die you go to the afterlife and live happily ever after. It's a comforting story to a child, and one that many people around the world have believed throughout the ages.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Scary Stories to Tell in the Dark. Actually just the art alone does the traumatizing really.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I would say almost all of them. At least the classics

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Little red riding hood - wolf eats your grandma.
Hansel and Gretel - forced out by stepmother, forced to kill a witch to survive.
Three little pigs - wolf kills your brother's.

The "classics" are really bad

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

No wonder we're all empaths. And we used video games to escape our feelings.

= ADHD

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago

Scary Stories To Tell In The Dark sure the fuck isn't a cuddly-looking bait-and-switch, but it is plainly aimed at a younger audience. Basically a collection of standard campfire stories and spooky e-mail forwards... with nightmare-fuel watercolor illustrations.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Honorable mention to all Newbery Medal winners, AKA the Dead Dog Award.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

Bridge To Terabithia goes a step further.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago

Not a book, but as a kid I absolutely loved The Land Before Time.

It's such a terribly sad and traumatizing movie for a young child.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

The book in the "Little House on the Prairie" series- (the one where Laura gets married and has a baby) and their childless neighbors ask to buy their baby. Is that enough trauma by itself? No. Not quite. It's the lack of empathy from Laura or her husband, they treat them so badly, like they're dangerous.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Virtually anything with a Newberry Medal is highly likely to have a traumatizing beloved character death somewhere in it. Maniac Magee and Bridge to Terabithia were good examples from my childhood.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

I read The Kite Runner as a kid, that was a fun one

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

The other night I read my son an old children's book named "Prickly Pie". He wasn't traumatized by it but I could easily see a kid getting traumatized by in. In the story a young hedgehog decides to skip school and ends up being hog tied by a sly fox and almost cooked over a fire.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

Charlotte's Web.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

I don't remember it very well, but I know I cried for like 2 hours when I finished "A Dog Called Kitty."

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

Hans Christian Andersen fables. At least it traumatised me long ago, unlike any other fairy tale books, which i had plenty.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Did anybody else read tangerine as a kid? I still think about it pretty often and I'm 30.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

My brother was assigned that in school and we had it in the RV on a camping trip, so I picked it up and read it one evening. Both the info on citrus growing, and the violence, are things I still remember. Fucked up.

Was it assigned reading? Where did you go to school? I've always wondered if that book made it into reading lists anywhere outside of Florida.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

The Little Match Girl.

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