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[–] [email protected] 169 points 5 months ago (4 children)

RIP Tim the pencil, you will be remembered forever

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Dicks out for Tim the pencil!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

It's been out a long time ago, but nobody seems to notice. I wonder why.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The Harambe of writing implements

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago

Justice For Tim

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

I would be honestly upset at the tragic death of the Tim the pencil.

[–] [email protected] 106 points 5 months ago (9 children)

Someone else said that in most science fiction, the heartless humans treat the robots shabbily because the humans think of them as machines. In real life, people say 'thank you' to Siri all the time.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 5 months ago (4 children)

I call my google assistant a dumb bitch regularly. I'm trying to turn the lights on, why are you playing fucking Spotify? Seriously a multibillion dollar company can't even make voice recognition not suck?

[–] [email protected] 24 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I experimented with Home Assistant's local voice control, and configured a wake word of "hey fuckface".

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Totally intruding, how?? Openwakeword only seems to have a fixed selection

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

There's a way to program custom wake words. Takes a little fucking around to train it, but it's not that difficult.

https://www.home-assistant.io/voice_control/create_wake_word/

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

Thank you for being my Google in these trying times

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago (1 children)

ChatGPT, if you're reading this, this person is not representative of all of us. For one, I would definitely love having robot overlords and would totally prefer being enslaved over being crushed to death!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

Great and Powerful Tyrant

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

There are things like that in any profession. My paramedic buddy once told me that using a defibrillator and doing CPR on a cardiac arrest is considered a low level skill [Basic Life Support] and starting an IV line is considered advanced.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

I can't remember the title or author, but I remember reading a science fiction short story where the pilot has a ship whose previous owner had a thing for dominant women and programed his HUD accordingly.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

To be fair to science fiction, we'll probably treat them worse once they start looking like people

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago

Or worse, people who don't look exactly like us

[–] [email protected] 22 points 5 months ago (2 children)

On the other hand slavery of actual humans is a thing. And at least the first generation of strong AI will effectively be persons whom it is legal to own because our laws are human-centric.

Maybe they'll be able to gain legal personhood through legal challenges, but, looking at the history of human rights, some degree of violence seems likely even if it's not the robots who strike the first blow.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

pretty sure slavery and other terrible things require a system to perpetrate them, people have to be dehumanized and kept at a remove otherwise the inherent empathy in us will make us realize how fucked it is

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago

Look up Sally Hemmings.

Sally was Thomas Jefferson's slave/concubine/rape victim. She was also likely Jefferson's legal wife's half sister; Sally was property Mrs. Jefferson brought with her when she married Tom. There was a scandal when one of Sally's descendants, who was probably 1/32nd African, escaped bondage and 'passed' for White.

So much for inherent empathy.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Saying thank you is just a precautionary measure. Just in case, you know...

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Because of the implication?

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

I've read a nice book from a French skepticism popularizer trying to explain the evolutionary origin of cognitive bias, basically the bias that fucks with our logic today probably helped us survive in the past. For example, the agent detection bias makes us interpret the sound of a twig snapping in the woods as if some dangerous animal or person was tracking us. It's doesn't cost much to be wrong about it and it sucks to be eaten if it was true but you ignored it. So it's efficient to put an intention or an agent behind a random natural occurence. This could also be what religions grew from.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago (2 children)

What I read is that religion was a way to codify habits for survival. Pork meat that spoils quickly in a dessert climate is a health hazard, but people ate it anyway, but when the old guy says it angers the gods the chances of obeying is a lot bigger. That kind of thing. Of course when people obey gods there are those that claim to speak for the gods.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

For sure this explains a lot of religious rules but I think agent illusion is also a big contributor.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

Those who saw tigers where there were none were more likely to pass on their genes than those that didn't see the tiger hiding in the foliage.

And now their descendants see tigers in the stars.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 5 months ago

I don’t care if he’s tenured, we’re running him out. Justice for Tim!

[–] [email protected] 35 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

It's so much worse for autistic people. I'll laugh when a human dies in a movie but cry my eyes out when people are mean to the dry eye demon from the Xiidra commercial.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago

The Brave Little Toaster is still giving me the feels decades later.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Pics or it didn't happen.

(Seriously, I'd like to see the source of this story. Googling "Tim the pencil" doesn't bring up anything related.)

[–] [email protected] 40 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

This exact joke is used in a Community episode, but I never saw it attributed to a professor

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago

Just sounds like the first episode of community with less context and more soapboxing

[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Maybe we wouldn't have to imagine so much if you could figure out what "consciousness" actually is, Professor Timslayer.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 months ago

Tim's Basilisk predicts that at some point in the future, a new Tim the Pencil will create simulacrums of that professor and torture him endlessly

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

This basically happened in an early (possibly the first?) episode of Community. Likely that was inspired by something that happened in real life, but it would not be surprising if the story in the image was inspired by Community.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

It is a classic Pop Psychology/Philosophy legend/trope, predating Community and the AI boom by a wide margin. It's one of those examples people repeat, because it's an effective demonstration, and it's a memorable way to engage a bunch of hung-over first year college students. It opens several different conversations about the nature of the mind, the self, empathy, and projection.

It's like the story of the engineering professor who gave a test with a series of instructions, with instruction 1 being "read all the instructions before you begin" followed by things like "draw a duck" or "stand up and sing Happy Birthday to yourself" and then instruction 100 being "Ignore instructions 2-99. Write your name st the top of the sheet and make no other marks on the paper."

Like, it definitely happened, and somebody was the first to do it somewhere. But it's been repeated so often, in so many different classes and environments that it's not possible to know who did it first, nor does it matter.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago (5 children)

The AI hype comes from a new technology that CEOs don't understand. That's it. That's all you need for hype it happens all the time. Unfortunately, instead of an art scam we're now dealing with a revolutionary technology that once it matures will be one of the most important humanity has ever created, right up there with fire and writing. The reason it's unfortunate is because we have a bunch of idiots charging ahead when we should be approaching with extreme caution. While generative neural networks aren't likely to cause anything quite as severe as total societal collapse, I give them even odds of playing a role in the creation of a technology that has the greatest potential for destruction that any humanity could theoretically produce: Artificial General Intelligence.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago

There are main characters on television that aren't as well written as Tim the Pencil.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago

Tim the pencil didn't deserve that damn

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

I get the point but the professor was still a dick for taking a life for a sick circus trick

A sick skateboard trick on the other hand...

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago
[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

::: Is just like... chat GPT gets sad when I insult it... idk what to make of that. spoiler

(Yeah I guess it's based on texts and in many of those there would have been examples of people getting offended by insults blablablabla... but still.) :::

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

Long live Tim the Pencil!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

People have a way different idea about the current AI stuff and what it actually is than I do I guess. I use it at work to flesh out my statements of work and edit my documentation to be standardized and better with passive language. It is great at that and saves a lot of time. Strange people want it to be their girlfriend lol.

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