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Nestle, Volvo among 130 companies urging COP28 agreement to ditch fossil fuels::Companies including Nestle , Unilever , Mahindra Group and Volvo Cars are urging political leaders to agree a timeline at the upcoming U.N. climate summit to phase out fossil fuels.

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[–] [email protected] 94 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Cool with ditching fossil fuels, but screw Nestle.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Their involvement made me immediately question whether this was actually something I should support.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Nestlé's business depends on the availability of crops that are at risk because of climate change, including chocolate and coffee. As it's patently clear what their self interest is in this, we can trust they are being honest this time.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago

I guarantee 100% of the 130 companies have determined they will be less profitable the worse climate change gets.

It's actually insane when you think with it, as the vast majority of businesses will be worse off, yet a minority are concerned with the current trajectory.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Not a problem till it’s MY problem

- conservatives and assholes everywhere

an absolute classic

[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago

Excuse me my kind gentle person, I believe one says, Fuck Nestle.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 11 months ago (1 children)

H-huh..? No... It can't be...

*runs to look out the window*

... No, the pigs are still firmly on the ground and the sky is still blue..

Hol' up

*reads the article*

"Our businesses are feeling the impacts and cost of increasing extreme weather events resulting from climate change," the companies wrote in the letter, which was coordinated by the non-profit We Mean Business Coalition, which is pushing for greater climate action globally.

"To decarbonise the global energy system, we need to ramp up clean energy as fast as we phase out the use and production of fossil fuels," they wrote.

Oh. That checks out.

Nevermind, false alarm guys! I thought Nestle was actually thinking of someone else for once. Whew. I was scared we'd had a reality collapse or something.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago

As sad as it is, it actually makes me hopeful that it can help push the agenda onto sustainable energy sources, as long as they are economically viable (which many are at this point). Once it starts hitting the bottom-line for large corporations, and better alternatives exist, that's when we see change (not when millions of scientists warn about the devastating effects). Maybe we can finally have a climate agreement where they stick to the agreement part. Sceptical but hopeful.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I'm conflicted. If Nestle wants this, it must be horribly bad for us, but on the other hand I want fossil fuels to go.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

A broken clock is right twice a day.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Unless it's broken where the hands are completely missing.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Or it's digital, yeah :P

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

It doesn't have anything to do with hoovering up all the water from national parks and sensitive aquifers for free and selling it in little plastic bottles for shocking amounts of money. Or taking farms from people in developing countries at gun point. Or convincing people that breast milk is dangerous and Nestle baby formula is the only safe alternative, even for people who don't have access to clean water to mix it with. They're just not going to use fossil fuels while they do that. Fuck Nestle.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Article didn't mention whether they gonna help or not so i'm very much inclined to believe they probably just gonna do the bare minimum possible, considered Nestle and Volvo is mentioned.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I know Nestle are cunts but are Volvo? All I know about them is their cars are overpriced and they gave up the seatbelt patent for everyone's benefit.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

They're automaker, it automatically goes into my doubt box.

Nestle is pure evil.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

That's the Volvo of old. Now they're just another automaker.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Fuck Nestle, but what's wrong with Volvo?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago

Guess evil corporations like Nestle and Unilever can do something not evil now and then.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Nestlé is doing something right?

[–] [email protected] 23 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Nestle is being damaged by environmental changes and now trying to get someone else to do something about it.

Don't worry, still profit at all cost assholes

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

They realised that chocolate melts at high temperatures, so if they allow climate change to continue, they can't sell any more kitkats.

😀

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Socialise the losses, privatise the profits.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Well you know what they say about broken clocks

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

You can't trust them?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Great! What viable alternative have they come up with?

Edit: somebody's mad lol

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago

Don't worry about it budday!

The chocolate industry hasn't found a viable alternative to African slavery 160 years after the emancipation proclamation, but they've got this fossil fuels thing licked!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

They know it won't happen and will excuse their continued use of resources with it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


LONDON, Oct 23 (Reuters) - Companies including Nestle (NESN.S), Unilever (ULVR.L), Mahindra Group and Volvo Cars are urging political leaders to agree a timeline at the upcoming U.N. climate summit to phase out fossil fuels.

The 131 companies, which have nearly $1 trillion in global annual revenues, wrote in a letter published on Monday that attendees at the COP28 summit must commit to reach 100% decarbonised power systems by 2035 for richer economies, and help developing countries financially so they can ditch fossil fuels by 2040 at the latest.

"Our businesses are feeling the impacts and cost of increasing extreme weather events resulting from climate change," the companies wrote in the letter, which was coordinated by the non-profit We Mean Business Coalition, which is pushing for greater climate action globally.

COP28 begins in Dubai on Nov. 30 against a backdrop of more scientists warning that the world is not on course to avoid the worst impacts of climate change by meeting the goals of the 2015 Paris accord, which committed countries to limit global temperature rises to 1.5 degrees Celsius (34.7°F) from pre-industrial levels.

The speed at which countries should phase out fossil fuels will be one of the thorniest issues.

Calls from Europe and elsewhere to stop burning CO2-emitting fuels will run into the arguments of the world's biggest fossil fuel producers, consumers, as well as poorer nations that say they cannot cut CO2 emissions fast enough without significantly more financial support from wealthy nations.


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