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[–] [email protected] 59 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Gonna be really useful for solar power builds.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 6 months ago

Off grid is gonna explode with ev campers

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Why would you punish my innocent budget with filthy ideas like this?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago

If your gaming setup isn’t ready for the climate crisis, then you’re not going to have a good time.

People need the RTX 5000 for fps.

I need it for super low wattage at 480p, 30fps.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Double-sided phone could be pretty neat.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Some company made one once, back in the early 2010s. I think they released a successor the following year, but neither phone sold well enough to keep going. It would be cool as hell if that were more common, though.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 6 months ago (1 children)

YotoPhone. They also made a version 2 & 3. Unfortunately, Yota went bankrupt.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

At the time they've been seen as a gimick, mostly because they were PRed by the government as our local invention and an iphone-killer it wasn't. That's a shame.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

There's one active brand still making e-ink phones, both single and doubled screen. It's HiSense. The devices look pretty nice.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago (2 children)

What would be cooler is if we could build our own phones, like we can desktops, so it can have exactly the features and specs we want.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

There’s nothing technically stopping you from building an android smartphone just the way you like. In fact, there’s extreme modding folks that do things like already. What we really lack is a future-proofed connector standard for component connectivity that just works.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

Project Ara, you can find it on the Google Graveyard :)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

I know it's not the exact same, but most folding phones are double sided screens on one face. I just don't know how much I'd use it if it was a non-folding style with front and back screens.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

There's a brand called HiSense doing exactly that. Look for the A6L model.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 6 months ago (2 children)

If refresh rate and ghosting is reasonable for scrolling I could see myself using it. For movies and games I would just turn on second monitor.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

I literally read all day, this would be fantastic. Books. Visual media has subtitles and usually is something I'm gonna Google further while watching/playing. I mostly consume text based social media and news.

.... fuck I think I just want a newspaper

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Much cheaper, no electricity required, no ChatGPT generated clickbait horseshit AND you can kill flies!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I'm seeing a lot of "ai" generated trash in the paper now :(

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I feel like this could be a lame drinking game when bored: Is it AI generated or just bad/lazy writers?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

Ooh I’d be great at that. I was trying to buy a pan on Amazon (I know…) and I scrolled past the reviews… without reading any of the words, I identified the first review I saw (not the LLM-generated summary, an actual review) as being LLM trash. I immediately said “AI” to my partner and we read it… they laughed when it ended up being OBVIOUS AI trash. I can tell by the shape of how words are laid out at this point apparently hahaha

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Almost all of our GUI software was designed with high refresh rate screens in mind, so it can be clunky to use e-ink ones. If we had GUis based on section changing, instead of scrolling, it wouldn't be a problem. On pcs, using the page up and down keys can be a workaround, but on phones, it's complicated.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I say bring back good ol' MS-DOS

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Lucky you, it's now FOSS!

[–] [email protected] 28 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I'm very interested for when a price is announced for this

Hopefully it's reasonable

[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 months ago (1 children)

What would you regard as reasonable? If I recall correctly, 800 dollars was the price for the last 13 inch e ink display I saw.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 6 months ago (2 children)

That brings it outside of the reasonable range for most people, I would think.

Am I right in suggesting that e-ink displays remain artificially overpriced because of the company that ultimately owns the patent?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

I would seriously consider something like this since my computing job requires me to stare at a light bulb all day. Perhaps there's a demographic that would spring for this in the same way there is for quality chairs.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

offices seem like a prime target for e-ink displays while it stays in this expensive early stage

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

I have assumed prices are high because it's a small market, at least with the current technology.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I dont want these small ones, I want a 55 inch one, so I can just have rotating art on the wall.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

I've seen a 36 inch 3-color one, but I can't find the supplier anymore. It's used for signage. I honestly don't know why this isn't a bigger thing for signage.

https://newatlas.com/technology/sharp-color-eposters-e-ink-gallery-plus/

Slightly smaller than the one I saw, but better colors.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

I saw a few of these some years back and I thought, yes its ganna hit the commercial market and we will get better and larger. Then it just fell off into a pit.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Passively displaying any stuff is the holy grail, but we get there step by step.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Soooo glad it's open-source!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The controller, yes. The display itself, no, as far as I can tell.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Any part being open-source is better than nothing!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago

Damn, I LOVE e-ink screens, I'd love to have almost all my devices using it, I love to read freely without getting eye strain from it. I'd even give away being able to watch videos in my phone for an e-ink screen.

But it seems like I will never be able to use it anywhere besides my cheap second hand ereader... the prices are always astronomically high :( even chinese e-ink tablets are too expensive for me.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

It's only 14,000 dollars and my first born female next of kin or better? What a deal!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)