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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Being emotionally detached from really stupid leadership decisions is harder than it seems

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Took me a lot of years to not think it's my company that is being run into the ground. I should not - and nowadays could not - care any less.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The book The Responsibility Virus helped me a lot with this. Most people are over-responsible for the choices of others, specifically ones they can't reasonably influence, anyway.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (6 children)

The company doesn't care about you. The company doesn't care about you. The company doesn't care about you.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (4 children)

My uncle spent years preaching to me about the need to be loyal to a company. I never drank the Kool-Aid. He spent 21 years working for an investment banking company in their IT department. 4 years before he was set to retire with a full pension, etc. his company was acquired by a larger bank. He lost everything except his 401k. He then spent the next 12 years working to get his time back so he’d be able to retire. He died 2 years ago and the company sent a bouquet of flowers.

THE COMPANY DOESN’T CARE ABOUT YOU!!

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The company cares about you in the same way a beef farmer cares about his cattle.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

No, they don't care that much

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

The most important traits for doing well at work (in this order):

  • clear, effective, and efficient communication
  • taking ownership of problems
  • having your boss and team members like you on a personal level
  • competence at your tasks
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I'm halfway through scrolling this long thread, and this is the first comment I've seen that isn't overly cynical. It's also correct.

I've been working for 38 years, and I've been someone who makes promotion decisions for 15 of them. The third one is helpful, not essential, but the others are super important. The people who rise to leadership positions aren't necessarily the top technical people, they're the ones who do those things with a good attitude.

The other thing I'd add is that they're people who are able to see the big picture and how the details relate to it, which is part of strategic thinking.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Your employer does not care about you. You are not important or irreplaceable

Take your time and energy and put it into your life, not their business

I have had coworkers die (not work related) and by the time you hear about it (like the next day) they have already worked out who will get the work done so the machine doesn't have to stop

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

The longer you work anywhere -- and I mean ANYWHERE -- the more you see the bullshit and corruption and crappy rules or policies and inequality all over.
For me it has been about the 3 year mark anywhere I've worked: once you get past that, you fade away from "damn I'm glad to have a job and be making money!" and towards "this is absolute bulls#!t that [boss] did [thing] and hurt the workers in the process!" or similar

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

3 years? What nirvana corp do you work at?

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You don't have to run the rat race to get promoted. You don't have to be at your desk at 7am and leave at 7pm to put on a show. Just be competent. Most people are not. You'll eventually get promoted once you are old and white enough.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There is no ideal place to work where they "do it right", whatever kind of "right" you care about right now. When you change jobs, you merely exchange one set of problems for another.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (6 children)

There's no such thing as quiet quitting. I prefer acting your wage.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

HR protect the company first, the employees second.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sometimes it's better if your employer doesn't know everything you can do. If you're not careful you'll end up Inventory Controller/shipper/IT services/reception/Safety officer, and you'll only ever be paid for whatever your initial position was.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Efficient workers get more work if you're in the office. I work from home, and that allows me to work efficiently until my work is done, set up scheduled emails to go out at the time I would've otherwise been done, then do what I want until then.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I see your work doesn't have invasive programs that check idle mouse and idle keyboard behaviors.

this is an old one but i can't help thinking, what if they installed it without my knowledge, after all, my work laptop was given to me already pre prepared by our IT department.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's suffocating to be in a middle management position because you get squeezed by the higher-ups and your own team. If the higher-ups make a decision that your team dislikes or vice versa, you're going to be in the shitter with whichever party suffered every time even if you had the best intentions.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

This is the purpose of middle management. You're the one responsible to the C-levels for what happens on your team, and you're the first line of defense for the C-levels to ignore the complaints of their lowers. Thus you get shafted from both sides.

The only way to be good at middle management is to basically throw everyone under the bus all the time. When your subordinates complain about policy, it's all "this isn't me, management made this decision." And "I'll pass it along to management".... When management complains about the team, it's all "they're not being motivated, how about we give them pizza" or something. You know, useless one time "gifts" that should "improve morale" but actually does nothing, and costs less than actually increasing wages.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Minimum wage, minimum effort

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hold on dearly to any leverage you might have over your employer

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Hold on to that leverage over your employer with a union

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I learnt meritocracy is a joke long before I discovered that it was literally invented to be a joke.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

it's the same story of 'pull yourself up by your bootstraps' too

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

No matter how much you invest you're time and effort for your job: You are expendable, and the only people who will know you were absent from home because of work 20 years later, will be your kids.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Yeah, looking busy is way more important than being productive a lot of the time. You always need to be doing something, so you just go through the motions of doing things because otherwise you'll get shit from your employers. Waiting in good faith for more real tasks to emerge isn't enough, so you must invent chores.

At least, that was very consistently my experience in retail.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Walking somewhere looking focused while holding something is a great tip I picked up from a coworker.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

People in your workplace don't know shit. There are a few who know stuff but the majority is dumb, careless or the combination of the two. Surprisingly the higher you go the more dumb and careless there are. We are designing monster billion dollar construction projects and some of my colleagues have problems with understanding written english. Others cannot learn a software that has literally 3 buttons in them they have to press. I don't even know sometimes why I am trying.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

I'm now a scrum master in a government IT team. I asked my team - all new to the work - to do hands on practice of the new systems, try a first stab at building our changes. Our changes were done in the second sprint (a sprint is two weeks of work)

Another team with probably weaker leadership, and maybe fewer competent workers spent six sprints (12 weeks!) "learning" and is unlikely to finish their work before Christmas

Management think my team's great, but I think we're mediocre, just tall among dwarfs

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Working for the federal government in Canada I learned that following the process is far more important than getting anything done.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Boundaries. Establish them and defend them with every ounce of your being. If you don't, most employers will grind you in to the dirt and send you out to pasture when you eventually crack under the pressure. Better to establish healthy boundaries up front. Not only will you find yourself more frequently surrounded by people you like and share mutual respect with, you will be happier and land fewer "shit" jobs because employers looking for people to send to the meat grinder will see that they can't grind you down and you'll be filtered from the hiring pool before you ever have to suffer at their hands.

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