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[–] [email protected] 83 points 5 months ago (4 children)

I just hope the moderator has a microphone kill switch so Trump can't just yell over Biden's answers and filibuster the whole thing as he has done in the past.

Trump talked constantly through the 90-minute debate, sometimes incoherently and other times rattling off unfounded and baseless attacks against Democrat Joe Biden while refusing to let the moderator even ask questions.

[–] [email protected] 88 points 5 months ago (2 children)

According to the npr story I just heard Biden's team did set "microphones open only when it's the candidates turn to speak" as one of the terms. Also no live audience, only candidates and moderator in a studio.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 5 months ago (1 children)

No live audience gives me a little hope. Trump needs that feedback to know he's not gone off the rails, as we saw in the 2020 debates.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago

That is a good point. Without an audience to clue him in that he is crossing a line, he may just get crazier than usual.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago

That is awesome news. I hope they stick to it.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 5 months ago

I groaned when I saw CNN is hosting. They'll let him do whatever he wants, it's good for ratings

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago

That's one of the Biden requirements, when one person is speaking, the other microphone is killed.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago

They need sound proof booths too. Otherwise, Trump will absolutely be shouting over Biden, trying to distract him and make him stutter, while it's Bidens turn.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Hey Biden, stop treating Trump like an opposing candidate and treat him like the insurrectionist that he is.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I understand the sentiment, but it’s not really Biden’s job to do that. The justice system has utterly failed us, but having the president decide who is and isn’t an insurrectionist probably isn’t a great idea.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago

It is his job to promote himself as a candidate and point out his opponents flaws, like being an insurrectionist who can't stay awake at his own criminal trials.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (4 children)

He is challenging Trump to a debate that he won't accept. He's doing exactly as he should while the justice system isn't doing its job.

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Can we stop giving Trump a platform please?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I think 1/4 to 1/2 of the American public disagrees.

For what it’s worth, I don’t think we should ever speak his name or acknowledge his existence kinda like shunning and the Amish.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I put up social media filters to make sure I don't ever see anything about the Amish or the content they post - I think it's working and I haven't had to fiddle with it in years.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago (4 children)

The last time trump showed up to a debate he was hopped up on steroids and proceeded to have a near meltdown on national TV. There's a very good argument to be made that that performance was a not insignificant part of why Trump lost in 2020.

I for one cannot wait for Biden to goad him into an apoplexy of rage onstage with, hopefully, intervention by secret service. All Biden has to do is suggest trump isn't very smart and hell spend the rest of the time fuming and making himself look like a moron.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago

I don't understand your train of thought. There's absolutely no way he shows up. This is only good for Biden.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

“Go change your diaper. I can smell your shit from here.”

“Sorry, the bronzer market still hasn’t recovered in DC.”

“You suck so bad at golf you have to cheat.”

“Oh shut up.”

Only way I’m actually watching is If Biden gets lippy. It this is going to be such a fucking shitshow Biden shouldn’t do it.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yup constantly bring up his rapes and frauds he committed and still commits. Make fun of him for scamming his followers constantly. Bring up that he stole money from a cancer charity at least three times.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Even if Biden does (and he won’t because there’s some sort of moral high ground or something,)

The people that need to hear it won’t. They only watch conservative outlets and will only get the 3-syllable-gotchas of Trump mocking Biden and call it a “win”.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I really hope Joe just comes out and name calls like Trump always has.

“Hey Sleepy Don, I heard you’ve been falling asleep in your felony trial in New York. Very low energy. Sad”

Fight fire with fire baby

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I would honestly pony up money to see that.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

He’d probably win over some of the knuckleheads if he did it tbh

[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I see no meaningful information coming out of this and mostly think it is going to depend on the moderator and if they do their job and/or try to be "unbiased". And trump will likely pull out for no apparent reason.

That said: I still think it is a good idea. One of the "debates" last time REALLY "hurt" trump's strongman schtick. I forget which one it as, but trump started another Hunter Biden attack. And Joe seemingly thought he was referring to Beau and tore into the orange shitstain. **And trump backed down. **

It was bassically exactly what Democrats should be doing across the board. Show "decorum" because that is what "moderates" like. But the moment a line is crossed? You smack them down and make them acknowledge they ain't shit.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago

This is what hurt Venezuela and is what's hurting America.

Both sides had been playing by the rules for the longest time.

Then one side went rogue.

And the other side continued thinking that they could handle the situation "with decency and decorum."

All while the other side encroached in, just like the bully pushing the kid off his chair, inch by inch, second by second, and all the kid does is yell "hey could you please not?" instead of elbowing the motherfucker in the stomach.

And then, you have what you have today.

You can't play nice with those types.

Biden needs more of calling Trump a clown, and saying "would you shut up, man?" next time. It's the only way to put them in place.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

The Trump voters won't care who wins.
The Biden voters will never change to vote Trump.
"Undecided" voters aren't choosing between Biden and Trump, they're trying to choose between voting and not voting.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Biden only recently said that he was happy to debate Trump, though he was non-committal on the format of such a debate, telling radio host Howard Stern, “I’m happy to debate him.”

Im surprised Stern is still on the air, even more so that Biden would do an interview with him, and that everyone apparently ignored it even happening?

It seems like it was mostly about his life and not any pressing issues America is facing, but here's a link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fz45sMb4js8

It's probably the most we'll hear Biden talk. Even if most of it seems to be random fluff.

I don't know why he picked Stern as the venue, but he needs to be doing more of this. Getting out and doing interviews. Just preferably harder hitting questions than:

Did you ever save someone's life when you were a lifeguard?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The whole purpose of a Howard Stern interview is random fluff. It's to make people like Joe Biden seem like he's "one of us". It's not meant to promote a political agenda, or even have serious discussion on any given topic. Howard Stern would have been more likely to ask Biden about details of his and his wife's sex life back in 1976 or something instead of a question with even mild political relevance. That's Howard Stern. That's what he does.

I don’t know why he picked Stern as the venue, but he needs to be doing more of this. Getting out and doing interviews. Just preferably harder hitting questions than: Did you ever save someone’s life when you were a lifeguard?

This is a reasonable expectation for if/when he goes on more serious interviews, but this is par for the course for Howard Stern, and he doesn't even try to pretend otherwise.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I dunno, never listened to Stern.

But you're acting like these days he's Good Morning America.

Bill Clinton went on MTV and answered live questions then did a sax solo, that reached a shit ton of people in a demographic that gets Dems in office.

I don't even know what demographic subscribes to satellite radio these days, let along how many listen to Stern.

Like I said tho an hour long interview is 100% what Biden should be doing, I'm just not sure why they picked Howard Stern in 2024.

Maybe because Charlemagne just isn't an option for Biden anymore?

He kept asking Biden hard hitting political questions, and we seem to agree that when Biden talks politics it doesn't go over well with voters.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (5 children)

I don’t even know what demographic subscribes to satellite radio these days, let along how many listen to Stern.

Regarding how many people still listen to Stern, I obviously don't know the exact numbers, but given that SiriusXM keeps renewing his contract which hovers around 9 figures annually, I'm going to guess that he still has an extremely large following and is probably one of the only reasons the vast majority of SiriusXM subscribers are even subscribed in the first place.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Whew CNN eh? That's not great.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (2 children)

CNN has not learned anything.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

If Biden s team doesn't demand trump be completely muted during Biden s time AND have the cameras cut only to Biden then they're fucking up

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

CNN learned everything they ever needed to learn during The Gulf War. They learned that if shit goes off the rails then people watch as much as they can. It's in their financial interest to keep things off of the rails.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago (28 children)

NO! FFS idiot DNC consultants are going to fuck this up again.

From the same people that foisted decades of republican-lite candidates on us.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Why? Didn't it work last time?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (5 children)

Did it? I don't know if that debate last time change anyone's mind. I know liberals and leftists were horrified at how Trump behaved, but they already were horrified at how he behaved. On the other hand I know conservatives personally who thought Trump showed he was strong in that debate whatever the fuck that means.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

This is fucking stupid. There is nothing to be gained by platforming Trump.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

Money.. ad dollars.. a lot of em for CNN.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

I know that some people dislike watching old guys for 90 minutes, but you could always hit a Stones concert.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (3 children)

How long do they think the defense portion of his first trial will last? Will his defense be like "we will give you the list of our witnesses on Nov 10th, no sooner." If not, could Trump be convicted before the debate?

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

I'm looking forward to that debate lol.

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