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(Of course I'm going to stop, but my server has been blocked by Hetzner, would like to recover it XD)

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just do what they asked you to do. Remove the torrents, it's not like they are threatening legal action. They are actually asking pretty nicely.

In the future, use a VPN.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They can't tell if you still have the files or not.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I am not saying remove the files, just the torrent (as in stop seeding).

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

What a tricksy thieving hobbit you are! /s

You’ll be fine. Stop seeding the thing they don’t like and increase your security—VPN, seedbox, private trackers, etc. If anybody asks, you had an asshole neighbor kid who guessed your WiFi password.

Edit: just realized that you were using a server with Hetzner—Germany is one of the worst places for torrenting. Get a server in a friendlier country for that.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

Given that it's Hetzner, there's not much you can do besides telling them "oops sorry didn't know this was illegal" and proceed using a VPN on your seedbox, go private tracker or just use a different hoster. Hetzner isn't a big fan of torrenting since they have the (german) feds in their neck.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

If you still want to seed that exact torrent, at least wipe the trackers. They are 100% connected to the trackers in that torrent to pull IP addresses so they can do this shit.

Next time, use an IP filter list to pre-block these people.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago

Very Reich of them chasing random citizens

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

seed and torrent the letter

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Say nothing. Stop sharing or seeding. But, above all, say nothing. You’re getting phished. Just comply and stop seeding the shit. Keep quiet. If you reply you’ll just have problems that cost money.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

This. Make the bastards chase you.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

You quietly comply. Then take tougher security measures to protect yourself before continuing. Do not respond under any circumstances. If you're served with actual legal papers, retain an attorney.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's no need to answer.

Stop whatever it was they detected. Don't do that any more.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ah yes, The company named "Company".

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

That's just how legalese is written. It's like variables in programming they tell you what the thing is and then they tell you what they're going to call it for the rest of the document.

I guess it originally saved them hand writing "B&H Film, Video and Television Media Production LLC" every time. Of course these days you could just do a fine and a replace, so I'm not sure why they don't, but it's just become standard lawyer at this point.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Don't reply at all unless you talk to a lawyer. Seriously, no good can come from it. Quietly disable/delete whatever they list, and never mention it again.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Never use a service that requires you to share the files you downloaded to pirate, not without a VPN. As you've might have noticed, their complaint is for distribution, not downloading. That's where they get you.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

You don't reply, just stop sharing publicly.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ignore it. Anything you say will be used to build their case. I would just set up another server.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There is no case. this is just TOS violation with a hosting company.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Not yet, but their could be in the future. Best to ignore it and move on. Even if it is extremely unlikely to be prosecuted for this stuff, it has happened, so why risk it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Don't respond.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Very, very, very brave you are to torrent on Hetzner lol

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've found Usenet backbone+indexer to be the same price as VPN while being significantly faster to download, no seeding required.

It allows more complicated setups like radarr+sonarr which download episodes as they come out, at around your internet speed.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Usenet is the way

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Proton VPN stopped the stupid copy right infringement letters from my ISP. Make sure you look up servers that don't report or respond to requests from companies that request such information from ISP's.

I use Luxembourg. No issues for years.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I think Hetzner wants you to tell them you've removed it. They did as requested and took down the VPS and disabled it. It's now in your hands.

I myself wouldn't ignore such a letter. It's now just asking you politely. If you continue they need to make the choice if it's worth pursuing you. I don't have any good insight if and under what circumstances they do. I would comply, remove said content and probably not reply to them. It's unlikely to make it better for you if you talk to people targeting you. And I wouldn't keep the logs around as they requested. Accidents happen, files get deleted, nobody is perfect.

But you obviously need to talk to Hetzner.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hetzner Online seems to be their company name. The one the letter is sent to.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

hetzner is a large hosting company in germany.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yeah. Hetzner is the hosting company. They are the owner of the IP range and thus get the letters. They forward it to their customers, in this case OP. And the letter seems to be from one of those shady companies that scan the torrent swarms for Intellectual Property of their customers and then write letters to the abuse contacts of the IP addresses of the offenders. I don't know where OP lives, but Hetzner is big in Germany, so it's probably german law we're talking about. And we're not very liberal with copyright infringement, should that escalate to that point.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Good to know. Thanks.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This sounds like a question for an IP lawyer, not an internet forum.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That'd be like deploying a satellite to find your own ass...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

This is the best analogy i have heard in a long time.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Proton VPN + Secure core mode = slow but damn anonymous torrenting

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I hit 80MB/s through my VPN now, which is astounding to me.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

If I’m not doing secure core, I pull down probably 92 to 95% of my full Internet speed, which is nothing to scoff at because I have fiber. Proton VPN is incredible. Unfortunately, there’s just no way to make secure core particularly quick. It reroutes through two servers, one of which is in a country that doesn’t have a data extradition treaty or whatever it’s called with the US, such a Switzerland.