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Literally anything regarding China, especially Xinjiang if you talk to anyone from
I was talking to a mate about Palestine and he immediately went for the "bUt TiAnAm3n SqU@r3 k1LLeD oVeR tEn Th0uSaNd" and the "Ch1n@ cEnOcIde iN UygHuRs Th0" with the swiftness of a 737 flying into the 2nd tower. They will disregard who originally makes these claims and are 100% unfazed by say, World Uyghur Congress being totally in support of the genocide in Gaza, the response being either dismissal or "you're too much into politics and also ableism".
Hexbears sucking up to dictators while claiming to be pro lgbtq will never not be funny
China's bottom-up system of power starting at the mass line via committees and polling does mean a slower progress on social change than a top-down approach like you see in the west, but it also means a more consistent gradual improvement as younger generations age up. Whereas it's always a constant battle in the west, with a large (quite often successful) push for reversal.
Trans rights got a boost in China just last week for example with a court ruling.
Right, the "bottom-up" system with a dictator for life at the top.
How many terms did FDR have again?
Since 2020 China literally has more workplace protections for trans people than the US
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.scmp.com/news/people-culture/gender-diversity/article/3243608/blessing-china-court-lauds-rule-law-backs-transgender-staffer-fired-being-absent-while-leave
Don't pinkwash your redscare.
Also Xi isn't a dictator. He was literally elected by a democratic assembly. Also he historically pushes for more democracy in China, more than the US. Literally look into the idea of whole process people's democracy
https://www.peoplesworld.org/article/whole-process-peoples-democracy-in-china-what-does-it-mean/
The West seems to define "democracy" in a very specific form: there MUST be multiple competing political parties and power MUST, at least in theory (compare Singapore, Mexico, etc) regularly transfer between them as the result of elections.
This is something Western states have been able to pull off, but it's actually sort of peripheral to the theoretical INTENT of democracy-- that the government serves the masses. Good governance is pretty much a by-product of the fear of being voted out of office.
You can, and often do, have the all-sacred elections and peaceful transfer of power and still have a government which isn't acting in service of its electorate. Sure, you can pick red corporate stooge or blue corporate stooge, but the Overton window is still a narrow slit that represents no real threat to the rich, and factionalism and winner-take-all elections sabotage any actual forward motion.
Meanwhile, the single-party state, unencumbered by having to tear itself apart in battles for the throne every four years, can focus on consensus and actual needs. Good governance can come from a sense of civic duty, or even a smartly weaponized corruption (if everyone thrives, my cut of graft grows with it!)
So does this mean China has better protection ? This is not a valid comment unless they are both starting from the same point.
Adolf Hitler was elected, as was Putin. All are essentially the sole control of their countries. Being a dictator is not summarised by the method you gain power; it is what you do with that power after it obtained.
China's courts hold transphobic firings to be illegal. In the US similar protections generally don't exist, and where they do, they actually don't because of at will employment law.
He was not elected, he was appointed to his position. You should speak with less confidence on this subject until you can get basic facts right.
Putin won a bourgeois election. Also putin isn't a dictator, he is the executive officer of a capitalist oligarchy.
No, being a dictator means you aren't accountable to other political power structures. Xi can be instantly recalled by the constituent assembly if they want. The constituent assembly is made of representatives sent by local democratic councils.
Hitler's party was elected in, much like the UK prime minister is not actually elected. Hitler still had to win a seat in the Reichstag, so.....
Putin is a dictator. No one is allowed to stand against him. In the current election the 29 candidates who have tried to stand have had that right taken away from them for one reason or another. Putin has the final say on what goes on in Russia. Putin and Xi may have the illusion of being recalled, but it will not happen. Anyone who thinks otherwise is either spouting propaganda or one very gullible individual.
I can easily believe that the GOP are creating problem for the LBGQT community, but they are soon to be ousted from any power they posses. Many of the gerrymandering that has gone on has been reversed or will be in time for the next elections. In NY state alone this will be enough to overturn the lead the GOP has on blocking legislation.
As for the "at will employment" law China has exactly the same thing.
Where the incompetance is discretionary then there is little an employee can do to protect himself.
The USA has National anti discrimination laws, China has no discriminatory laws, but also has nothing to protect an individual.
So your idea that China is a better place to be doesn't really hold water in my opinion. Yes, there are some republican states that are making things hard, but this is a very short lived episode in US politics imo.
The UK prime Minister is also appointed lol.
Notice how you didn't include any evidence of Xi being a dictator
Lol
From your own link
Proving incompetence is a higher bar than at will employment actually
They materially don't.
China isnt involved in carrying out a genocide rn, and China hasn't destabilized the middle east through mass violence. China is better.
Aside from the fact that no one is allowed to run for elections unless they have party approval. China doesn't even try to hide that there is no real democracy there.
Subjective.
They materially don’t.
Again subjective.
Come on. Uighurs must surely count as human beings. That is just plain wrong man.
That propaganda:
A) is being spread by adrien zenz, a nazi paid by a cia front group to spread shit, who claims God gave him a personal mission to destroy china
B) is old news that was abandoned when the area opened up for tourism again, and there were magically no camps
C) isn't believed by basically every Muslim country on earth who sent delegations to see what was going on, meanwhile the US which cares so much about Muslims it is enabling genocide against muslims as we speak thought it is happening before they walked it back. Give me a break.
Does dissuade from the fact that only Communist-party backed candidates can appear in the election. This was the reason there were so many rioters in HK. And hence, why so many were imprisoned or ran from the country for asylum elsewhere.
Propaganda is a made up narrative to persuade an objective viewpoint. What is happening with Uighurs has a lot of factual video evidence, including first hand reports from those who fled to Türkiye. If it is so untrue why won't China allow visiting diplomats talk about it?
Unbelievably crass opinion. https://www.wired.com/story/xinjiang-uyghur-culture-tourism/
Source?
The HK riots started over the lae that allowed extradition created to get a guy who murdered his wife in mainland China and then fled to HK
Source?
Lol Wired. And the first link to a claim is straight up from Adrian Zenz.
In your opinion. Most of the world has a different opinion. I wont bother responding to your alternate account. Seriously, using two accounts to barrack a differing opinion, sigh.
You state a lot of BS while providing absolutely no evidence to give it any credit, other than your bias towards the west. What links does this guy have to "wired" or the many other media sources that show exactly what is going on in China.
Almost all of the Muslim world including US allies share my opinion actually:)
I do think it is funny that you think I have an alt just to tell you you have shitty takes twice. Two people just disagreed with you enough to comment.
R/selfawarewolves
The wired article you shared literally relies on Zenz to cite many of its claims, as do basically all media sources who previously claimed it was happening.
I'm guessing you have a working brain, learn basic research literacy.
So yet again absolutely nothing to substantiate your point of view. GL with your life.
My instance defederated from them... but here we are. Can't wait for lemmy to catch up and let us block instances on an individual level.
edit: Awww Hexbear didn't like that. Sadly my instance won't let me block you assholes yet. Gonna have to deal longer than any of us likes.
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