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Hurr durr landlords bad, let me live on your property for a penny even though you had to spend money to create the acquire the property in the first place!!
Are you against roads?
Do you use the sidewalk without paying a fee to a private entity that helped develop it?
Housing doesn't have to be a scarcity market. I don't anyone is complaining about people who own a house, but people are complaining about companies and individuals who own 10,000 homes.
Ummm more like "scalper buys ticket first and now you can't, then charges way more for it." And "landlord buys houses first, now you can't, and they charge more to live in it than you would have if you were able to buy it yourself."
They're pretty much the same
Not all landlords are scumbags, but there's a cliche for a reason.
How about we compromise on paying them the cost of entering the land into production. Just cut out the "unearned income".
Nobody creates real estate, unless you're talking about those artificial islands in Dubai.
Got it, the buildings we live in are naturally created by the shifting of tectonic plates👌
Oops, I used the wrong word. I guess that means I'm an idiot.
LAND is land is not created, and landlords are charging rent largely based on the value of the land even though nobody made. Ownership of land is kind of bullshit anyway. It only came to be owned because at some point sometime took a piece of unclaimed land and convinced people around them that it belonged to them. All subsequent transfers of the property are therefore illegitimate as well.
If you feel that ownership of land is "kind of bullshit" feel free to live in in a traveller always being on the move.
I don't support excessively inflated rent but the fact that some people here genuinely believe that renting out a property is equivalent to scalping or that landlords don't deserve to get paid for investing capital in the "land" which they're renting is the funniest shit I've read the whole day.
Whoooooosh.
Believing something is bullshit does not obligate me to protest it in ways that are harmful to my well being.
I cannot opt out of the consequences of everyone else believing ownership of land is a legitimate concept. Choosing not to make use of land other people claim to own is acknowledging land ownership just as much as buying or renting property is. And I don't want to be shot or arrested for trespassing.
Go live on an inhabited Island and create a whole nation of bums like you there
Man you are working really hard to miss my point. Either that or you're incredibly dense.
A penny is too much.
So everyones labor should be free for you to take then? How are you not the parasite for wanting others to build, maintain and fund a place for you to live?
People should pay mortgages, not rent, you pillock.
What's holding you back from taking a loan and paying mortgage instead of rent? Risk aversion?
I can think of two reasons but I doubt this is exhaustive...
Most people don't have enough capital to make the down payment. When one person has no savings, they're irresponsible. When most people have no savings, it's poorly designed policy.
In addition, the option of being able to rent out a house increases its value, which makes mortgages more expensive than they otherwise would be (with no rents).
Bad credit and no money
🏆 Here is your award for most disingenuous comment! Congratulations for your total lack of ability to understand that others have different Material Conditions than yourself!
Then the problem is not that the practice of renting exists, but wealth inequality. Which we fully agree on, especially since several mechanisms are at work that further the gap between the rich and the poor. These all should be addressed.
I never said that bahaha Gotta love being called a parasite for not wanting to have your blood sucked by a leech. OMG THAT LEECH DID WORK TO ATTACH ITSELF AND YOU WANT TO REMOVE IT?!? YOU JUST WANT TO KEEP ALL YOUR BLOOD?!? SOUNDS LIKE SOMETHING A LEECH WOULD SAY, SUS AF...
You literally are here arguing rent should be free...so yea grow up child.
You said yourself that a penny is too much. What's lower than a penny and not free?