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Everyone has different DNA and nobody refutes that, but the lines at which race are defined are completly arbitrary. Are you considered black if you have 50% sub Saharan African DNA? Most would say yes. Are you black at 25%? How about at 5 or 10%? The slew of different answers is a clue that race is just a social construct borne of perception rather than hard fact.
Similarly, a lot of groups that are considered “white” today would not have been in the slightest if you were to go back 100+ years. The Irish, Italians, Greeks, among others were not considered white until more recently than you might believe.
Thats the crux of it, race is only truly defined by these arbitrary lines in the sand that people draw, and these lines are different for different groups and individuals. Race is only real because people perceive it to be. We could divide up society based on hair color or if your ear lobes hang or are directly connected to your head and it would make just as much sense, which is to say not much.
Edit: I might add that there’s more genetic diversity in sub Saharan Africa than anywhere else in the world but they all get lumped together as black because “skin dark”. It’s stupid when you examine it.
Add to that somebody could be genetically "black" and pass as "white". It isn't based on DNA; it's based on perception.
My go-to examples are Melanesians and Indigenous Australians. They sometimes have darker skin than people we in the West call black, and if we saw one of them walking down the street in a Western country, we would think they were black. But they are quite genetically distant from Sub-Saharan Africans. They just also have very dark skin pigmentation.
So are they both the same race? If not, what are we calling race here? Because I've only ever heard it described in terms of skin color.
I could be wrong, but I believe that I've heard there's more genetic diversity in sub-saharan Africa than pretty much anywhere else. Which kinda makes sense when you think about how that's where Homo sapiens first evolved.
(throw in blond-haired melanesians)
I've heard it said that the average Englishman and the average Indian are more genetically similar than two random Englishmen, too.
In other words, if that's true, there are some general trends in genetic differences between "races", those trends are, overall, far smaller and less significant than the random differences that pop up by chance within a single race.
Ah, so it's the race, like what you would put on a government form that they're disputing, not the fact that we all have ethnicities which make up our person. I guess that makes sense, although it seems like splitting hairs to me. Nationality and ethnicity are already two different concepts. I suppose "race" in this context would be like you said, saying someone is "white" as opposed to saying they're of English ethnicity. Is that right?
CRT focuses on how this arbitrary idea of race shapes how people are treated, especially on a societal scale. We divide people by wealth, by where they’re born, what gender they are, etc. All of these things affect how people are treated. I find most of the pushback is because some white people feel attacked when someone points to the fact that whiteness is a status.
I've seen push back by people of various backgrounds, not just "white" people, which we shouldn't actually say, since it's a construct in direct contradiction with the assertions of CRT. Right? To be clear, my post isn't meant to be a criticism of the CRT statement. I asked so that I could more clearly understand, which I do now, thanks to you and some other people here. Thank you.