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Default instance blocks should largely replace defederation (nerdica.net)

submitted 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Default instance blocks should largely replace defederation

Since what content users might want to see is quite unlikely to match which servers the admins tolerate, choosing instance on the Fediverse can be quite complicated, which is inconvenient and off-putting for new users.

For this reason, and simply that the Fediverse is stronger united, I believe defederation should ideally be reserved for illegal content and extreme cases. If Fediverse platforms would allow instances to simply block the rest for users by default, the user experience would be the same, unless they decide otherwise.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

You got that completely backwards.

You as a user are a guest of something akin to a private house party and are expected to behave as such. In turn the instance tries to be a welcoming party host by providing an enjoyable place for you to talk with other guests.

Moderation in that case is about removing guest that don't know how to behave and choose to shit on the carpet. Defederation is about turning away known to be bad guests at the entrance so that the volunteers inside don't have to clean shit off the carpets all the time.

[+] [email protected] -2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Its a private party, not a service to anyone. The host does it because they enjoy having a party with their friends and other people that know how to behave.

And no, federated users are no different from local users. What matters is the server location of the community.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If you host your own instance you are free to invite who ever you choose to your own parties 🤷‍♂️

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

What ethics? Anyone is free to open an account elsewhere.

And its not about locking anyone in, but why should I as an instance host pay for the drinks of someone that takes them to another party with horrible people that constantly try to crash parties over at my place?

I don't mind doing that with nice people's parties as I want to go over to their parties sometimes as well.

But if they really want to hang out with these horrible party crashers, they can move over there or make their own party and invite them.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I think you need to be more specific in what you mean by that. I don't think anything in the metaphors that I just wrote is unethical.

Corporate social media is unethical because they spy on you and sell your personal data to advertisers. In addition one could argue they are also unethical because they optimize their algorithms to psychologically manipulate you with the goal of stealing your time and attention so that they can show you more advertisements.