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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/3320637

YouTube and Reddit are sued for allegedly enabling the racist mass shooting in Buffalo that left 10 dead::The complementary lawsuits claim that the massacre in 2022 was made possible by tech giants, a local gun shop, and the gunman’s parents.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They blamed books for copy cat killers, movies and video games for shootings now they want to blame websites...

now they are trying to sue people because of hindsight? this isn't Minority Report. this is 'lets throw allot of torts and other legal bs on the wall and pray something sticks'

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Making legal precedent so that they AVOID showing the offending content instead of PROMOTING the offending content is probably the goal

About 30-40 times a day, Youtube shorts shows me videos actively advocating violence, and I know for sure that Google has enough money and resources currently to prevent these videos being shown, considering it AUTOMATICALLY SUBTITLES THEM

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago

I had to manually report a 100k views short showing someone killing a snail with an air gun. It got removed almost instantly.

Sure, it's a snail, and sure, it's an air gun, but exactly this type of videos are breeding grounds for sickos. And no YouTube, the 1mil sub Minecraft channel that said "kill a creep" is not really violent, neither is some who says "fuck" in the first 30 seconds.

Gosh I hate the platform.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What are you searching for that YouTube shorts shows you this?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Dont need to look at a lot, if you remember 2015 youtube suggestions youve got a pretty good idea of how bad the shorts algorithm is. I dont personally use them bur my friend does.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

You don't generally search with YouTube shorts, it presents you with content About 20% is YOUR recommendations (channels you subscribe to) 20% is near-interests (people who do similar content) 20% is whatever is popular at the moment, or whatever a la carte foreign language/low effort content (garena free fire, fortnite) it wants to give you 20% is locational (at home I get anime recommendations due to housemate, at work I get Vegas/Disney vacation or AI garbage) 20% is whatever the algorithm is pushing (channels I have BLOCKED but still appear, tiktok exiles, cooking videos)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I'm guessing you're algorithms from search results generate that content cuz I never see this kind of stuff

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm a lefty tree hugger who subscribes to frugal living and DIY home maintenance channels..... I get right wing Jordan Peterson/ Joe Rogan bullshit in my feed every time I log on.

I actively click not interested....it still comes. I clear my browser history often, it still comes.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You should pause your watch history altogether if you're getting this kinda shit. Youtube has stopped recommend anything to people altogether who have completely paused their watch history.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

How bout instead YT take the fuckong hint when we click "I am not interested in this"? How bout that? Why does a feature which some of us are paying for have to be disabled because YT can't write a version of their simple algorithm that takes hints?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Your "lefty" content prompts the algorithm to show you opposing content, which is literally what people are clamoring for, because odds are high that you will engage with it, and engagement is the only thing it looks for.

If you only liked Trump shit it'd show you a minority of left-leaning content as well.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I have been telling youtube im not interested in Joe Rogan for years. It still gives me joe rogan youtube shorts

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Doesn't help that everyone and their mother has a channel that only shows Joe Rogan clips. I don't even like this shit YouTube, why can I recognize it from the fucking microphone.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You probably has some Joe Rogan video in your watch history.

Even hovering over those shorts can get them added on there for some dumb reason.

Go purge your history and see how much it improves.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

hmm, I have watch history off. Is that why it keeps suggesting him so much? Im getting the 'defaults'?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Why do you people insist on this conspiracy theory where you blame the person because you think they are lying? Fuck off. Google's algorithm is malicious.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

did I say you were a liar? Christ.. I don't get this shit in my feed, that's my reality

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

It's not a conspiracy theory to assume and algorithm takes what you watch and are interested in into account. That's what it does.

It is a conspiracy theory, and an easily disproven one, to suggest the algorithm forces this content on you.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I am getting pretty real tired of that excuse. It takes active vigilance to try to teach the algorithm that no, I am not a christofascist incel "pAtRiOt" and I do not want those fuckers in my feed