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to be fair, you must have a very high iq to understand dialectical materialism (slrpnk.net)

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I don't think you should be taking socio-economic understanding from the guy whose mismanagement caused/exacerbated this. And, you know, created an authoritarian state out of a revolution; that was bad too.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

What, you can't learn from century old mistakes? That particular famine's not the real warning though, that's just war shit and Russian cyclical famines that were ended by modern agriculture. Look that up by the way, it's fascinating.

What you want is the Lysenkoism-caused famines that followed it, partly because the Soviets were so desperate to end the cycles and thus prove their legitimacy. Ironic.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 days ago

That particular famine's not the real warning though, that's just war shit and Russian cyclical famines that were ended by modern agriculture.

Okay so cyclical famines don't kill millions of people that's not how that works. The main cause of the famine was the war, but the war caused the famine through (among other things) War Communism. In the immortal words of one angry Irish dude: God created the ~~potato blight~~ crop failures; the ~~British~~ Communist Party created the famine.

What you want is the Lysenkoism-caused famines that followed it, partly because the Soviets were so desperate to end the cycles and thus prove their legitimacy.

Those are more clear-cut since there was no war to blame for incompetent Soviet policy, but I wanted to point out that even Lenin himself was a failure as a ruler and not at all the source of sound socioeconomic ideas when it comes to actually solving the problem he claimed to have the solution for.