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[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Modern bikes are beyond insane. Like, $10K to $15K is considered normal and appropriate - just to get disc brakes, electronic shifting, internally-routed cabling etc. Meanwhile I look for '90s era hybrids on Craigslist for $50 or thereabouts and get thousands of miles out of them - and somehow I'm still able to shift gears and stop when necessary.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I’m an avid cyclist and I would never spend 10k on a bike. For my nice favorite bike it was $2500. I commute on a vintage road bike and it works great, it was $200 on fb marketplace.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

vintage road bike

Like, with downtube shifters? I obviously like to poo-poo advanced bike technology, but indexed shifting is one thing I'm hugely in favor of.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

Yeah it’s a Bianchi Europa. I guess the downtube shifters are bearable for me if I’m not racing. Especially since if it gets stolen I only lose $200. And I guess the $200 of work I put into it for funsies lol.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

Agree. I saw a review of an e-bike that could ring using an alarm if you didn't find it or something. Why?!
We need to develop e-bike and cargo-bike vehicules to be fully inclusive to people who can use regular mecanical bike but why make it full of electronics and computer? They only needs lightings and a motor, that's not rocket-science.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Yeah, like the derailleur is moved by a little electric motor instead of by cable. So you can control it with your phone - which is considered important for some reason.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

As I understand it, the gears always being perfectly indexed is the big selling point for electronic gears.

I wouldn't know since I run mechanical, but this is what I've heard.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

I mean, in 40+ years of bike riding (always mechanical) I've never had a problem with the indexing on shifters. At most I occasionally have to click a lever twice instead of once, or twist the handlebar a bit more. It just seems like a (very expensive) solution in search of a problem.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

You've never used the barrel adjuster in 40 years of riding?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, never. I don't even know how to use it. I just get my bikes tuned up at the local bike shop every year. FWIW I'm kind of embarrassed by my lack of bike mechanic knowledge, and I recently bought an old Diamondback for commuting with the goal of doing all the work on it myself.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

No need to be embarrassed. Basically you turn it to get your gears to index properly, which prevents the need to push a bit extra on the shifting levers to actually get the gears to shift.

You can try it yourself by turning a bit in one direction and then seeing if the gears shift better - look for no sounds being present and the shift completing without any additional push. If it got worse, then turn the other direction. Seems a lot more intimidating than it actually is.

I used to be woefully deficient in mechanic knowledge, but then I started going to the local coop bike workshop, which is probably one of my favourite places in the world.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

Wow. I bought my city ebike for about $2K and it’s served me fine. I’ve maybe spent $50 in maintenance in the year since, and $200 in cycling gear.