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Is the first one Disney? If so, 2 of 3 are confirmed Nazis, so yeah, huge red flag. Steve Jobs was just a dick, right?
Musk started out as just a dick then turned full fascist. I bet Jobs wouldn't be too far behind if he was alive.
The guy died from a treatable cancer because he listened to a health guru instead of doctors. I bet he would be an antivax idiot gulping down horse dewormer to prevent COVID-19 if was alive today.
It's even worse than that.
He stole a liver transplant from someone at the top of the list, and then died a few months later. He wasn't even a candidate, he was terminal at that point, but he did it anyway to try and give himself a few more months to live, while likely killing someone else who needed that liver much more.
Classic billionaire bullshit
Rules for thee.
Behind the Bastards had a great series on him, as always.
I liked that when he died, he died knowing he could have avoided it if he wasn't a miserable, narcissistic idiot :)
The behind the bastards about Jobs was fucking wild. The guy made children cry (not his own) for eating incorrectly and he would hold meetings in the bathroom so he could soak his feet in the toilets. It is a great series of episodes.
The same dude who refused cancer treatment because he was convinced his “healthy” lifestyle and alt med bullshit would cure the cancer itself
He literally thought eating tons of fruit would cure cancer. He also refused to shower and stank like shit.
Pardon?
Listen to the episode. It is fucking wild. He apparently didn’t bathe either
Because he said he didn't need to. Some wild shit about mucus and body odor and how his diet removed the need for it.
Narrator: It didn't
I'll look for that one, he's great. Sometimes, it's just too hard to listen to, but Jobs would probably be okay.
The Jobs series is fairly tame as far as BtB goes. Definitely worth a listen.
How do you eat incorrectly, stick it up your nose?
If I recall it was a small girl who ordered a hamburger which conflicted with what he thought a proper diet should be. He absolutely let her have it in public and she cried.
Disney technically isn't a confirmed Nazi, AFAIK. He actually worked with jewish employees at his company who vouched for him.
He was a nazi by association, to the antisemite Motion Picture Alliance of the time and his welcoming of Nazi film film director Leni Riefenstahl. He also had a specific beef with a specific Jewish businessman who labelled him an antisemite, and his company produced at least one antisemitic portrayal of the three little pigs, but it also produced propoganda for the US Military fighting the nazis. In their cartoon "the ducktators" they mount the stuffed heads of Hitler, Mussolini, and a japanese military leader I don't recognize on the wall above the fireplace.
He was racist af, tho, but no less than average in 1930s and 1940s.
In my book, Nazi adjacent = Nazi. He wasn't trying to get along with Nazis to save orphans or something.
There should be zero tolerance for Nazis.
But if a profiteer trades media with a nazi it doesn't make him one. It makes him an asshole, but a Nazi is something far worse and by watering that down and normalizing it you're doing great harm to society.
I would argue it does. By assisting a Nazi in any way, you have actively chosen not to hinder them, and are thus furthering their cause. That makes you a fucking honorary Nazi at the very least.
It's not about watering anything down, it's about keeping those pieces of shit as radioactive as possible. Their ideology should be completely isolated and driven to literal extinction.
Oskar Schindler
I somewhat agree, because their opinion can be changed by whatever is most profitable. However, that view also makes it impossible to identify Nazis. It's hard to say Disney wasn't a Nazi and only did things against that because it was profitable, or he was anti-nazi and only did things for them because it was profitable. If "just following orders" makes you a Nazi, then just following the profits does too.
I think if a nazi is living secretly in hiding all is well but since we live in a world where people tell us who they are it becomes incredibly easy to identify Nazis.
"what do you want tattooed"
"I want the american history x tattoo but make it slightly less on the nose"
Just gonna point out that that's a Crusader cross, I think it's the cross of Jerusalem specifically but I'm only really familiar with like three Crusader orders so it could be one of the more obscure ones I'm just not recognizing. I only say this since I keep seeing folks calling it the iron cross which is an entirely different symbol and would be less of a red flag since at least the iron cross has connections to the German Empire, Modern Germany, and American Biker gangs.
I made a recreation of a local bust of Kaiser Wilhelm (one of the good ones, brought peace to Europe (the non-ominous way)) that happened to include an actual iron cross medal. I was concerned about modern interpretations and so I did research on it, and the anti-defamation league tells me that it is not a hate symbol. Good enough for me.
The same anti-defamation league that said musk's nazi salute was just a awkward gesture?
The very same! I don't really care about these guys anecdotal evidence, because in practice everyone with an iron cross tattoo is actually a Nazi.
It was the God-Emperor himself. Casual reminder that Imperial Japan was a divine monarchy, and fascism and monarchism are not mutually exclusive.
The glasses are the giveaway. Plus him being the head of state...
Sounds like he just didn't have any morals, just cared about the money.
Which I don't think is any better than being a Nazi, but could be worse
Yeah, no morals
No, Nazis are way fucking worse
Now, no morals and only caring about money would take you the same path Nazis took if it was found profitable. Just look at what the megacorps are doing - absolutely anything they can to squeeze couple more pennies without caring of the consequences to human life, as long as they're not financially penalized for it.
No, it's the same monsters different motivation
Say what you want about the tenets of national socialism dude; at least it's an ethos...
Man, that's a bold quote to drop ITT. 🤣 Just watched again two weeks ago.
At least jobs had the presence of mind to let himself die of a curable condition because he thought he knew better.
Even that tongue in cheek comment is unfortunately true as another person put it: he stole the next in line spot for a transplant when he was already way too far gone for it to do anything only to die months later.
Yea, just an unbelievable asshole.