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Germany is now deporting pro-Palestine EU citizens. This is a chilling new step
(www.theguardian.com)
this post was submitted on 03 Apr 2025
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Fun fact, posting a link to this article got me banned from the Germany subreddit:
Damn, really? Where's the post?
Here: https://www.reddit.com/r/germany/comments/1jqljc8/germany_is_now_deporting_propalestine_eu_citizens/
I always forget what a cesspool of racism and authoritarianism reddit has become.
I know that there is definitely organized Zionist and organized Russian and other far-right chills on reddit, but it seems they have been quite effective in getting many people to follow them blindly.
Yeah you can really feel the brigading any time you post something even remotely pro-Palestine or anti-Israel over there.
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The post was removed because it was a post saying "the gestapo is back" with no backing, and it doesn't seem to related to privacy. And "germany is no longer in schengen"? Yes it is, i'm not sure what you're talking about.
Okay, that changes everything and it looks like he/she/they werent telling the full story.
I understand your point, but why post it in a privacy sub?
I was going to say that too. Doesn't seem like the right place to post it.
There's exactly one rule in this community, you broke it.
I am seriously baffled… that 2 people would think an unwarranted general demand for ID papers without probable cause and then recording the data in a centralised tracking database is not relevant to privacy. How on earth do you arrive at that?
Is it that you don’t care about being physically tracked yourself, and from there conclude it’s not a privacy issue? Do you have something like Snapchat broadcasting your realtime physical location anyway?
I must say it’s alarming how the basic concepts of privacy has gotten lost on the younger generations to such extent. The modern day global concept of privacy is to a very large extent driven by papers being demanded in Germany in the 1940s. If it were not for 1940s Germany, privacy communities in Lemmy very well might not even exist today.
Getting ID'd when passing a border is not a privacy issue. You are trippin.
Also legally speaking, they cant just track you. What they are doing is just registering your entrance to the country on a central databank.
There’s exactly one rule in this community, you broke it.
What are sock puppet discussions?
Normal discussions, but at one point (maybe after a user gets banned for insulting) suddenly there are 5 20min-old accounts all insulting people and pushing the same agenda.
TL;DR: Discussions manipulated by one or more users who use new accounts created just for manipulating that discussion.
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Bro, I am full on privacy but if you are crossing borders, it is very normal to get checked for ID and all, normally you wont evem be able to go into a cou try before you give them all your details on why and what you are doing there... This crossing borders without chhecking is relative new and sadly will be deminished by this stupid new government we will have im germany soon...
No it is not normal to arbitrarily check ID at a Schengen border crossing.
What I meant, that its normal everywhere around the world, just not in schengen. But this changes right now and I get your point...
How could this possibly be unrelated to privacy?
They were not just looking at IDs to look for Turks (which IIRC is the reason they are doing it).. they were scanning everyone’s ID into a centralised system to generally track people’s movement -- even IDs issued by neighboring countries.
Privacy is about control. In this case, the privacy invasion reduces freedom of movement (control over your own travel).
do you happen to have a photo of the incident? i would be curious
i have been ID checked before when travelling from italy to austria by train. As i'm 20-30 year old and was travelling alone, i suspect it was about curbing migration or sth. But they didn't register it in a database.
Not sure why I would need a photo for what has become a common practice in Germany. Taking pics of cops just risks triggering aggression so I would need good reason to do it.
Abnormal human being's comment gives you a good idea why this is ban worthy. Pandering to conspiracy/extremist even if unintentional must be avoided to preserve the community.
What conspiracy? This is literally a thing that happened.
The conspiracy is that they are only being deported for protest when they have been arrested for a number of crimes.
I don't agree with the part about deportation without going through the courts first though.
The shit? No they're not. Some other people in the same protest committed these crimes; these protesters aren't accused of any criminal acts.
Maybe not just read articles that promote one narrative while leaving out essential information. The four protesters are accused of multiple things. Sure, they should be put on trial first and if guilty, get their punishment then be deported.
Sigh.
To correct myself, it seems that two are accused of a criminal act: Insulting an officer. That's... uh... The fuck?
Insult is a crime in Germany regardless who you insult. It's Germany, not the US. You can't just harass people here, regardless of their status.
It alone wouldnt warrant deportation. However the article is still missing information I find in German language articles.
Also I support the "enforced politeness" but find that the fines are a bit excessive. Should rather be treated like a traffic infraction instead
A (false) accusation is gonna fire back.
Since I can't verify that the edit made by TanteRegenbogen one minute after OneOfUrBusiness' comment drastically changes the conetext, I will neither start discussing about that, nor undelete the comment, but republish it as part of my own comment.
The comment was "So you can just accuse an immigrant of insulting you and get them deported?". What the comment implies is wrong since you simply can't do that. But it might have a context I do not know about.
You aren't good at reading are you?
The shit? You added that information after my response.
No, I didn't. It isn't edited.
Must be a system hiccup because I didn't change anything.
Okay that was funny, but dude seriously? C'mon.
I can't remember making an edit though. Dunno what happened.
Sounds like an appropriate response.