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Penn Jillette is No Longer A Libertarian (lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz)

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Why have a party if you know that libertarianism is bullshit?

Because at least when Libertarians fuck everything up, sometimes it's kinda funny. Ever hear about the time a bunch of Libertarian idiots got an entire town overrun by bears?

If they all suck why not just focus on mutual aid and solidarity with working class folks, instead of siding with billionaires. Because that’s ultimately what libertarianism is you know?

Libertarians aren't a monolith, y'know. I'm not the "simp for billionaires" type of Libertarian, I hate those people. Rather, I'm the "prepper nutjob who hates the government and is ready to retreat to the woods when everything goes to hell" type of Libertarian.

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Well I think the real question is what are your ethics if you encounter another human being when you have retreated into the woods? ... Do you avoid them?

Yes. "Get off my lawn" would be the appropriate response.

Do you try to dominate or exploit them? If so that is libertarianism.

No, that is not Libertarianism. Libertarians want very small government, focusing on protection of one's rights and one's property.

lib·er·tar·i·an·ism

/ˌlibərˈterēəˌniz(ə)m/

noun: libertarianism

a political philosophy that advocates only minimal state intervention in the free market and the private lives of citizens.

Do you work toward partnership and mutual aid? If so that’s anarchism.

No, that is not anarchism. Anarchists want no government whatsoever.

an·ar·chism

/ˈanərˌkizəm/

noun

noun: anarchism

a political theory advocating the abolition of hierarchical government and the organization of society on a voluntary, cooperative basis without recourse to force or compulsion.

No offense, but honestly? I find anarchism to be even more ridiculous than libertarianism, and us libertarians are absolutely ridiculous. Sure, "voluntarism" sounds good on paper but what ends up happening looks more like Somalia in practice.