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[–] [email protected] 38 points 3 days ago (2 children)

anyone who claims to be "a libertarian" should be forced to watch the libertarian convention which YOU KNOW none of them have ever seen in their lives.

check out the ideas your "party" pushes. real big brain stuff.

there's nothing wrong with freedom, but regulation is necessary. to say otherwise is either ignorance, stupidity, or malice.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

to say otherwise is either ignorance, stupidity, or malice

Why not all three?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

¿Por qué no los tres?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago (4 children)

I'm a libertarian because the only thing I hate worse than Democrats are MAGA Republicans - And at least unlike Democrats and Republicans, I'm well aware that my party is a joke.

And before you criticize me, I voted Democrat against that orange wannabe dictator THREE FUCKING TIMES, grinding my teeth and swearing as I did so every time, but I still fucking did so, so spare me the lectures.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

stunning and brave

also the vast majority of dems did the same thing, we just don't feel the need to tell everyone how different we are because of it

[–] [email protected] 1 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

also the vast majority of dems did the same thing, we just don’t feel the need to tell everyone how different we are because of it

^ Translation: "I am too clueless to figure out that this thread is a conversation about Libertarians, and thus discussing Libertarians and Libertarianism is totally appropriate and on-topic."

By the way, Pumpkin... Who died and made you in charge of what I talk about on the internet with others? Just curious.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

yeah im clowning on the entire concept of "being libertarian" rather than libertarian ideas

you can talk about whatever you want, and I can clown on you for doing it. that's freedom, baby.

or should i say pumpkin

[–] [email protected] 2 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Ah, my mistake. I had assumed you were just too socially clueless to understand how conversations work.

Enjoy being a clown!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

People like you should work on splitting the republican party.

And after that establish a more fair voting system that isn’t primed to stall at a two party state from the beginning.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

People like you should work on splitting the republican party.

Oh trust me, I've been trying to convince any Trump voter who's willing to listen that Trump is a con-man and a wannabe dictator for the last eight years.

It definitely helps that I speak their language - I'm a construction worker and a vet with a mouth that would probably offend many who consider themselves "woke" - but the most common problem I run in to is that even if I can get them to "see the light" and consider that Trump might be a con-man and a wannabe dictator, inevitably they go back to their own right-wing MAGA echo chambers and much of what I say goes out the damn window.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

Damn, but thank you very much for trying! 🫶🏻🙏🏻

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Not going to try to preach or anything, but just wondering if you've ever read this article? Excellent read that sheds some light on real libertarian experiments and how they've gone wrong:

A Libertarian Walks into a Bear: How a New Hampshire libertarian utopia was foiled by bears

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

LMAO I own the book. I am well aware my party is a clown show, I just want to be able to grow weed, shoot guns, light fireworks, and enjoy the company of sex workers consensually within my poly marriage to my trans wife.

...Okay, I made that last part up, but you never know - I might one day feel the need to marry a trans girl and bang call girls together with her in a poly relationship, dammit, because life is short.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

and enjoy the company of sex workers consensually within my poly marriage to my trans wife.

Are you against the government codifying protections for these people due to the undeniable danger that they face?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Nope, but that being said I don't believe in the government being competent enough to do so in the first place, especially when there's always going to be Republicans eager to revoke those protections.

That being said, I definitely encourage trans folks to arm themselves because let's face it, the government will not protect them in any way under the Trump administration. The second amendment applies to all Americans and sadly there's a lot of bigots around nowadays who are more than happy to commit a hate crime.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Nope, but that being said I don’t believe in the government being competent enough to do so in the first place,

Then I don't think you're a libertarian. If you were, you would not believe that this is even a possibility. My understanding is that it's a core belief that the government, by definition, cannot be competent enough to do things like that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Then I don’t think you’re a libertarian.

LMAO don't mansplain Libertarianism to me.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Is it mansplaining to point out that you don't agree with a core principle of your claimed ideology? Are you really that sensitive to the most benign criticism of what you supposedly believe?

OK then. And here I thought you were up for an honest conversation. My mistake.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Is it mansplaining to point out that you don’t agree with a core principle of your claimed ideology?

It is definitely mansplaining when you tell me that I don't actually understand what libertarianism is, I'm not actually a libertarian even if I say I am, and that I need a big, strong man like you to explain all this to silly little old me.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Sounds like you just don't like having your beliefs challenged.

Good luck with... life I guess.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Wrong. I simply don't like having someone who doesn't even know me try to correct me about what my own personal beliefs are. It's rude.

That's like me telling you, "Well, you must obviously be a Mormon, since you believe murder is wrong and Mormons believe that too. I don't care if you say you aren't an Mormon. You actually are a Mormon, and the only reason you'd deny being a Mormon is because you just don't like having your beliefs challenged."

See how condescending that sounds? If you want to "challenge my beliefs", be polite while doing so.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 3 days ago

I wouldn't have. I've never voted party lines.