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Elon Musk’s daughter says father’s rally gesture was ‘definitely a Nazi salute’
(www.theguardian.com)
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It’s mindblowing how anyone still genuinely thinks what he did was anything but.
"iT wAs A rOmAn sALuTe" oh you mean the "salute" that appears in exactly one painting from the 1700s, long after the Roman empire had fallen?
There are videos of people being asked to recreate it, and while most refuse to do it (because of the implication), some add their own flourish to make it look like something else. That should tell you everything you need to know.
If that's a Roman Salute, then what happened to Richard Spencer was a "Roman Face Massage"
What happened to him?
He got punched in the face for being a white supremacist dickhead.
Forgot about that! Who's got it?
Excellent.
And was the direct inspiration for the Nazi salute.
Indirect inspiration. Hitler got it from Mussolini, who got it from Gabriele d’Annunzio, who got it from a Broadway production of Ben-Hur, which got it from the US Pledge of Allegiance, which got it from the painting.
Interesting. Do you have a source on that? I'd like to research this more.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_salute
The painting? I believe it.
Looks like people reaching out for swords rather than a salute to me. The Nazis played some mental gymnastics to get to where they are.
That was my thought when I first saw it. If it was a real salute, don't you think the soldiers would be more uniform in their portrayed appearances?
Can’t really really refute painterly proof.
My coworker is convinced it was just 'my heart to you!' and to him is why he no longer trusts the news. It's crazy to watch educated people get sucked into the alt right misinformation hole.
The one that always gets people to accept reality for me is
"If it's just "My heart goes out to you!", then do it in public and see what happens, do it at work and see if you still have a job."
Show them this and ask again. It's probably not going to change their answer, but there will be a moment of confusion that passes behind their eyes as they try to reconcile reality with their beliefs.
https://imgur.com/a/musk-nazi-musk-ag0DOJN
Your coworker is a nazi who hasn't come out yet.
Does he ever tell people his heart goes out to them in the same way?
Not that I know of...
Are they an engineer?
They aren't, no.
Having been on several bar trivia teams, I can say that at least 80% of Americans know virtually nothing about history. I could imagine someone with only a vague familiarity with a Nazi salute just assuming there's no way a fortune 500 CEO would actually do one, not recognizing how spot on of a Hitler impression that was.
Its noted in the wikipedia page for the ADL that since 2014 it's chair has been a silicon valley tech CEO
Referring to this? The Anti-Defamation League is a joke.
If he didn't mean it it would be very simple to at the very least post a tweet afterwards saying he's sorry for the misunderstanding and that he didn't mean it to look thay way. Like any innocent person would do in that situation.
The fact he didn't shows all you need to know.
ADL Logic: Drinking milk is racist, the Hitler salute is not.
He’s been quacking like a duck for years, and now that he waddles like one the bootlickers are all “ooh, just an awkward swan!”
Yup.
It's obvious deflection. Don't engage. They have to convince themselves and by giving them the time of day they win.
Just watched it again. I didnt remember it being that obvious...
It's not ambiguous.
It's disgusting that people have to have this discussion at all.
Who am I gonna believe? The right-wing choads who are gaslighting us about this, or my lying eyes?