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Tim Walz says he may run for president in 2028 despite failure of Harris campaign
(www.independent.co.uk)
this post was submitted on 03 Mar 2025
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Oh man I can't wait for right-wing/foreign propaganda to tell progressives what they should hate about Walz.
you do realize Biden's neolibs just supported a far right leaders muderous war crimes right? And the progressives were fighting that criminalality the whole time.
Biden and Blinken should be in chains at the Hague, but somehow you want to blame progressives for your sides rampage against human decency.
And don't forget this from a russian propagandist in 2015 (archived reddit link):
To be fair it doesn't take much to cause an idealogical split between leftists.
I mean yes, but that’s why it’s important we push back hard for leftist unity and use propaganda-like approaches to simplify the message into easier to digest chunks for everyone else.
I think it’s fair to say nazis and imperialists/colonizers/fascists/insert-word-for-oppressors-here are a common enemy we can fight against, and access to housing/food/healthcare/etc. are basic human rights.
Theory is great and all but semantics between ourselves can happen after action. It’s a small start but the economic blackouts seemed to break through to the wider populace a bit - I’ve had loved ones who were aware/tried that are otherwise pretty embedded into corpo ecosystems and they didn’t even hear about it from me.
TL;DR: Yes, but “apes together strong.” We can break stereotypes and now’s our chance to reach outward too.
This is a must. America is a country of morons who barely read above a 5th grade level.
You're an interesting Lemmy, I've been watching your work.
I'm more interested in seeing if democrats hold honest primaries.
Or primaries at all.
Continue to pretend that every criticism from your left is from your right. It makes it easier to blame the left you hate when you lose to the right you admire.
I mean this is Tim "Israel has the right to expand its borders" Walz. Unless he walks that one back he'll probably alienate the Palestine vote.
But if he walks back that is he going to lose the Israel vote and will they finance a primary challenger?
The Israel vote basically doesn't exist anymore. Even most pro-Israeli voters won't go so far as to base their entire voting strategy on whether Israel gets to expand. Aleo if they're Republican-leaning they don't vote Democrat in a million years and vice versa. The reason this logic didn't work for Gaza voters was because genocide is a massive red line for a lot of people (and the existence of a sizeable Arab diaspora), not because most Americans particularly care about Palestine.
The Israel vote definitely exists and the Israel lobby can make or break almost any political career.
Single issue Israel voters? Do you have data for that? Because if they exist one would expect them to make more noise in favor of Harris instead of the narrative being set by Palestine voters.
No because that wasn't what I said.
Here's some stuff about the Israel lobbyists though
Vocal anti-Israel candidate Bowman loses New York's primary election
Pro-Israel groups spent big to oust two Squad members in primaries
Pro-Israel groups tout Dem primary endorsee winners, but yet to target safer anti-Israel incumbents
The equivalent to Gaza voters in 2024 would be single issue Israel voters. With a good candidate everyone else will fall in line, so only those two need to be considered.
Yeah I know about those, but lobbyists aren't all powerful and in something as large as the presidential election their impact will be outweighed by the Gaza vote. Israel lobbyists are so effective because they put all their weight against defectors who can be primaried and pick their battles; increase the scale of the election and their impact will wane accordingly.
Sure is neat watching which incumbents party leadership won't rally behind.
When AIPAC has thrown its weight into a race to try to unseat a Democrat, they mostly haven't used "Israel" to do it. If the Israel vote was actually a critical voting bloc that would sink campaigns, you'd think that would feature front and center.
This is my comment which almost lines up perfectly with the article you posted.
That's not the "Israel vote", that's the Israel lobby. And the Israel lobby has the money to attack a vulnerable representative, not the money to swing a presidential race. They failed to oust Omar and didn't even try to oust AOC. They're an enemy PAC, not god of elections.
Money you can get around. Voting constituencies you can't.
It already happened. I vaguely remember something my boss would tell me about him being gay or something like that. Idk it was some completely made up horseshit.
Zionism, obviously. But if course, anyone who criticizes Israel or it's supporters must be a secret right-winger or foreign agent, nobody could possibly be legitimately bothered by an apartheid state doing genocide.