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[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, but if you look at the whole picture and not just specs, the hardware isn't priced that badly. Like you said, a similar screen would only be found on high end devices and I would argue you can't even get a trackpad that is as good as the one on a MacBook from any other manufacturer. You also get a pretty decent webcam and speakers and the aluminium chassis is exceptionally good too. If you don't care about those things then I understand looking mainly at specs, but if you do these things add up to a really good user experience.

Don't get me wrong though. I don't want to shill for Apple here. There are some things that are just obscenely expensive. The cost of RAM and storage upgrades is an insult. Or the Mac Pro wheels or basically anything "small" (adapters, the Apple cloth etc.).

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 15 hours ago

Sure, if you're looking for exactly what Apple offers, then they offer a decent value. But if you want any changes, you're SOL.

I personally don't care about half the things they ship standard (screen, camera, chassis, trackpad), I really care about things they charge extra for (RAM, storage), and I like some things offered by other manufacturers (TrackPoint + mouse buttons from Thinkpad, repairability, keyboard feel, etc). I also don't really like macOS, even after using it for years at work.

For me, they offer poor value. For someone else, they offer good value. It all comes down to what you value.