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By Alice Cuddy BBC News, Jerusalem


The call to Mahmoud Shaheen came at dawn.

It was Thursday 19 October at about 06:30, and Israel had been bombing Gaza for 12 days straight.

He'd been in his third-floor, three-bedroom flat in al-Zahra, a middle-class area in the north of the Gaza Strip. Until now, it had been largely untouched by air strikes.

He'd heard a rising clamour outside. People were screaming. "You need to escape," somebody in the street shouted, "because they will bomb the towers".

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Some solution has to be found. If Israel just empties Palestine of Palestinians and claims it all as Israel, that won't give them the safety they want from attacks by nutters. The crazy thing that is, there are right wing nutters in Israel wanting to exactly that. Ethnic cleansing is no way to peace. Even the US won't support them doing that. Even doing it salami slicing with nutty settlers isn't going unnoticed.

There needs to be a justice system to deal with nutters. You can't deal with harsh collective punishment. It's a nutters response that just creates more nutters on the other side. Which nutters of the side partly want to justify their own nuttiness and to create more of them on their own side.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't think that goal this time is to evict Palestinians from Gaza. I think the goal is simply to try to get a "new deal." Most terrorist organizations aren't as evil, incompetent and aren't as ridiculous as Hamas is. I mean imagine how much better Gaza would be with a Taliban-esque leadership group in charge. Or even just a leadership group physically located in Gaza.

Like how many jihadists can really be left in Gaza? At some point, they've got to run out of these idiots.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There are some who are calling for it to be the end of Palestinians. Nuking them and other means of clearing the land.

You never run out of idiots. They will be coming to Palestinian to fight. Young men are prone to look for causes to fight for and there is a real injustice happening to Palestine.

Israel can't just kill it's way to peace. No justice, no peace.

Hamas aren't helping the Palestinian cause either because they are clearly terrorist nutters.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh I'm sure there are some people at that point on the Israeli political spectrum. I just don't think the ruling coalition is there.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

It doesn't take much sanity to see nuking would be a terrible idea.