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In the past week or so, the courts have begun to try to set some boundaries on the Musk–Miller–Trump administration’s early blitz of recklessness.

. . .

This judicial review provides at least a small reprieve, hope that some of the administration’s most destructive impulses will be stopped. Or at least pared back. But even with the courts stepping up, and even with the reality of the administration’s ineptitude sinking in, this early Musk–Miller–Trump blitz remains very—maybe irreparably—damaging. Of course, there are a lot of moles to whack: the U.S. Agency for International Development and the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau are being dismantled at an alarming rate, and the court system is not known for being nimble. The administration is betting, perhaps rightly, that at least some of its thoughtless, lawless efforts will slip through the cracks.

But even if the courts caught them all—and even if every court facing each lawless escapade said, “Nope, that’s not a thing”—still the entire process would be doing serious damage to our institutions. Think of it as someone spoofing your identity and going on a shopping spree with your credit cards. Even if the goon gets caught, you still have to go store by store to argue that the fraudulent purchase wasn’t legitimate and hope the debt is forgiven. And all the while, perhaps long after all the debts are dealt with, the torrent of uncertainty kills your credit score.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 5 hours ago (4 children)

We know. What we don't know is why are all civil servants just rolling over, instead of applying simple sabotage.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

How would sabotage help when destroying the government is Musk's and Trump's goal?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 51 minutes ago

It slows them down. Which is what we can hope for, until people get a bit more organized into other forms of resistance.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (2 children)

It's easy to volunteer other people, but these are civil servants who inherently believe in the rule of law by default. That programming in itself makes it hard to go against this lifelong belief in doing things by the book.

I hope they can do what they can to resist, but I also don't believe this is on them either. If the former President in a position of power couldn't put the brakes on this shit; if we as a society couldn't put the brakes on this on November 5th... Well, my expectations are very low. Things will have to come crashing down hard until the apathetic and ignorant wake up, I suspect.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

but these are civil servants who inherently believe in the rule of law by default. That programming in itself makes it hard to go against this lifelong belief in doing things by the book.

Most simple sabotage is doing things EXACTLY by the book... Civil servants often take shortcuts to expedite things. They should take ZERO shortcuts.

Elon toadie asks for a set of creds. Demand Toadie get all appropriate forms completed, first, and then demand documented procedure for obtaining those creds are followed TO THE LETTER. No rush jobs. No prodding the ticket holder for updates. Just exactly like the book says to do it.

Just an example.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 hour ago

This is called "work to rule" and it is one of the most classic kinds of industrial action, pretty much one step short of a strike.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 hours ago

It’s easy to volunteer other people, but these are civil servants who inherently believe in the rule of law by default. That programming in itself makes it hard to go against this lifelong belief in doing things by the book.

It also means risking their livelihood, which I expect in many cases is an even greater deterrent than an aversion to rule breaking.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

The same reason most of us decline our ample opportunities for sabotage every day. Someone else should do it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

Well, that changes, the more people do it. And I am not going to brag here about what I've done, but at least once a day, I do something to put a wrench in a cog.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Whose saying they are all rolling over?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Their actions? How else do websites vanish? Whiy aren't we getting livetracks on Elon's location, or his toadies? Where are the server crashes?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Lmao, so you are asking “where are the server crashes,” in the same statement acknowledging sites have been removed. How often do you see server crashes of things that have been deleted?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

No, I mean crashes if the Whitehouse web sites.... or breaking the auth systems for Trump officials... or delaying fleet vehicle reservations for motorcades so they come up short, or have to cancel....

The only way these things can happen so fast is by civil servants just doing what they are told.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I imagine a lot of people just don’t want to go to jail. Considering there’s substantial criminal penalties (for everyone that’s not a billionaire) to take out a website or anything else you mentioned - that’s my guess.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

There are myriad ways to take something offline, which is easily plausible as an "oops" moment. There are also myriad tarpits to send requests to.

My old job, if I wanted to totally de-rail a project? I'd push it over to the project management office, and then to the infosec office. Almost guaranteed, the project would fail, because of those two tarpits.

Get a special request? Schedule a meeting for 4 business days out. Spend 1/3 of the meeting catching up and socializing. Spend 1/3 pre-planning the next meeting. Spend 1/3 laying out all the issues needing to be solved, and "circle back" when we get "scheduling lined up"...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

And then it gets restored from backup 20 minutes later while you look incompetent to your peers and supervisors.

If you really want to take it down you need to be systematically deleting or corrupting backups for several months; then take it down.

That requires destruction of govt property (up to 20 years in jail).

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

And then it gets restored from backup 20 minutes later while you look incompetent to your peers and supervisors.

Oh damned.... for some reason the last 4 backups failed... Crap.

Regardless, it's 20 minutes of outage. And sure, you look incompetent to your peers and supers, who hopefully, would be on your side, anyways. Or, they are Fascist Toadies, and it's best you look incompetent. How can someone incompetent sabotage anything?

That requires destruction of govt property (up to 20 years in jail).

No, it doesn't. It requires a few days of not checking a misconfigured backup job. And the misconfiguration is just an "oops", easily explained away.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

How can someone incompetent sabotage anything?

How can someone incompetent stay employed in their current role?

If peers and supers are on your side, actions would not need to be explained through incompetence. If peers and supers are not on your side they are going to get rid of you with expediency. Then you can't do shit either way. For the most part, people don't really know who is who.

Oh damned… for some reason the last 4 backups failed… Crap.

I guess we'll just have to re-deply from git. No big deal.

No, it doesn’t. It requires a few days of not checking a misconfigured backup job. And the misconfiguration is just an “oops”, easily explained away.

Intentionally deleting backups is 100% destruction of govt. property. If we're talking about simply a "few days" of backups, it's also not going to do anything meaningful. There's been pretty much no new development on anything since Jan 20th, so we'd need to be getting rid of backups substantially earlier than that.

Either way, I think you mean well with your inquiry. Hopefully this can help with understanding. >>>

[–] [email protected] 0 points 47 minutes ago

How can someone incompetent stay employed in their current role?

It's not like that's on the horizon, anyways.

If peers and supers are on your side, actions would not need to be explained through incompetence.

Ok, cool! They can explain away, and help make the "oops" more plausible...

If peers and supers are not on your side they are going to get rid of you with expediency.

That is happening, anyways. Thankfully, Public Servants are unionized.

I guess we’ll just have to re-deply from git. No big deal

If it's up to date... Of course, you can slow walk the restores, or even re-deploys.... Again, at best, my example was a 20 minute outage. But it's still an outage.

Intentionally deleting backups is 100% destruction of govt. property.

Ok, so just "accidentally hit a key, and have it back up the wrong directory, and forget to check backup reports..."

Either way, I think you mean well with your inquiry. Hopefully this can help with understanding.

I fully understand what I'm saying. And I fully understand what Simple Sabotage means. It doesn't mean you will be the single thing that stops the machine... But you can muck up the works.