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Game of Thrones maybe. To coin a phrase, “spare me the drama, and the incest.”
I love fantasy, it was right up my alley at the right time, but all the grit in GoT for me just resolves to alt-history Europe.
I've never seen or read Game of Thrones either, despite also being a big fantasy fan. I just never got around to it when it was popular, and after hearing how it collapsed in upon itself at the end I don't feel the need to.
I've tried multiple times, but it doesn't gel with me. Alt history, like you said, bit also 'lotr with abundant sex' just doesn't sit well with me.
And then the world was devastated by the badly written ending, and I felt vindicated without even having skin in the game.
I don't really think that LoTR and GoT have that much in common other than both being popular and fantasy. LoTR is high-magic, focuses mostly on a small group or two of people, is done in the context of an impending apocalypse, and follows a quest. GoT is low-magic, follows many different story threads, and is mostly people navigating their political and social environments.
They both have dragons, both have some important characters be nobles, and both are kinda faux-European, but I can't think of all that many things that really tie the two together. I'd say that most fantasy that I've read is significantly closer to LoTR than GoT is.
That being said, I'm basing this on the books.
Oh yeah Tal, my reference point for fantasy is only LOTR. So the people telling me to watch Got because I was a big Tolkien fan might have instilled the comparison in me.
But I lacked the staying power to get a proper comparison
GoT's rise to popularity is almost as crazy as its sharp fall into irrelevance.
Honestly odd to me. I mean its expected for any show to become irrelevant when it ends, thats normal. But the way it was hated on i dont get. The ending was exactly what was foreshadowed since the first season, but people were still confused and angry as if it was an illogical story progression.
I actually rewatched the whole thing starting last week and finished it today. All the characters make sense, they did what the always said they would. Maybe that was boring for people.
While the ending is exactly what I expected it to be, I think the last season was rushed. But I agree, I don't get the hatred people gave it, I had stopped watching a few seasons back, but watched the last one because people around me were watching it, but from the books it was fairly clear that that was the ending all along.
Fair enough, if you didn't notice a drop in quality or whiplash character/plot developments all I can say is that I'm kinda jealous.
I will disagree with you on the fact that it's normal for any show to become irrelevant when it ends. Shows that are good enough and capture audiences the way GoT did initially can go on to become much more and maintain relevance potentially for decades. It's rare, sure, but I think the opportunity was there with GoT.
It's the expedience of it. It also started moving into dumb tropes starting in season 5, only worsening as it continued.
This Pitch Meeting really sums up the issues: https://youtu.be/jAhKOV3nImQ
Main Pitch Meeting: https://youtu.be/BASjRxn5QFU
One trope that I really hate are these bypasses where characters almost meet but then miss each other. Happens way to often in this show.
Thanks for the links :)
I loved the books, but just kept wincing trying to watch the TV series, never made it through.
I've read the books, and I had no intention of going through the pain again, watching the show.