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jointhefediverse.net seems to be a commonly linked resource for directing people to join the Fediverse.

Curiously, it does not list Lemmy under the list of Reddit alternatives. Their GitHub README explains why.

Previous relevant discussion: https://lemmy.ml/post/78808

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 16 hours ago (4 children)

It's almost certainly because of the tankie factory that is .ml and the fact that it's admins are all hard core tankies (including the main dev! And ofc the whole infamous Nutomic transphobe incident)

Coupled with the fact that a few of the biggest communities are on .ml does not bode well.

That's why I keep calling for a general boycott against posting content or comments on .ml communities.

.ml doesn't want growth, they want a tankie echo chamber, if anybody wants to actually see Lemmy grow at a healthy pace it starts with shuning the hostile tankies and their instances.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

sorry, but what does tankie mean?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 14 hours ago

Generally, those who praise authoritarian regimes who mask, or attempt to, themselves in the cloak of communism/socialism e.g. China or Russia and are SUPER anti-West (Parroting views of the China Russian regime)

Which comes with a whole host of shit takes, like Russia being justified in their invasion or even denying Tiennamen Square and definitely denying the China Uyghur genocide

Basically, they've gone so far left they've circled back into Right-wing authoritarianism

[–] [email protected] 12 points 14 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 13 hours ago

oh i thought tankie means different here

[–] [email protected] 3 points 14 hours ago

Same, no idea... Tank wearing people? Lol

[–] [email protected] 20 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Coupled with the fact that a few of the biggest communities are on .ml does not bode well.

https://lemmyverse.net/communities?order=active_month

  • 0 community in the top 10
  • 2 communities in the top 20

That’s why I keep calling for a general boycott against posting content or comments on .ml communities.

[email protected] is a good alternative to [email protected]

[–] [email protected] 8 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Well I was going by subscriber count, but good to know that it's not as bleak going by (probably more accurate metric to go by) MAUs, but still [email protected] is #10 in the top 10

For memes either [email protected] or [email protected] is a good alternative to [email protected]

[–] [email protected] 5 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Isn't number 10 [email protected] ?

Also, by the active numbers metrics, those other memes communities definitely took over the ml one

[–] [email protected] 3 points 14 hours ago

Oh it is, ig I miscounted lol

[–] [email protected] 4 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Still many top tech communities (in their niche) are on ML. Open source, Linux, Privacy, Raspberry Pi, Firefox come to mind.

Several hexbear communities are also in the top 50.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I mentioned l [email protected] already

The alternatives are there, most of the people just don't seem to care enough to leave the .ml ones

Several hexbear communities are also in the top 50.

Are they? I see 2.6k monthly active users for [email protected], which is definitely lower than top 50, seems more like 80 or 90, or even past 100 (currently on my phone, can't really count accurately, and Lemmyverse doesn't have row numbers)

[–] [email protected] 7 points 15 hours ago (4 children)

I do use all the ML alternatives, but engagement is notably lower. I almost wish LW would just bite the bullet and defederate from ML.

Yeah, maybe more like top 100 for hexbear. I am on mobile too.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago

Yes, I guess for tech people the political stances are irrelevant, they just want the most active communities

Having access to the devs via [email protected] and [email protected] is probably why

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 hours ago

Everyone should defederate from that toxic shithole. It serves no purpose that isn’t duplicated elsewhere only without the heavy-handed admin/mod team.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

I almost wish LW would just bite the bullet and defederate from ML.

I get the feeling that even if you got what you wanted, you would still complain about .ml

Right now, you could block .ml personally. Have you blocked .ml?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago

I have not, no. There are still some technology communities that are only present on ML. Outside of those, I do not interact with ML.

And what's with your prima donna attitude? What exactly is the problem with calling out an instance run by genocide white-washing tankie scum?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I almost wish LW would just bite the bullet and defederate from ML.

I really don't understand why they won't, they did it with lemmygrad and hexbear but with .ml they wanna take this kid glove approach. The best theory I got is they don't want to because of the more active communities on there ig

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago

Having access to the devs via [email protected] and [email protected] is probably why

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 hours ago

Make your own instance and defederate .ml or any of the other instances you hate. Go nuts! Show us how it's done.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

That’s why I keep calling for a general boycott against posting content or comments on .ml communities.

I mean......I joined that boycott months ago, and I don't think I've ever seen you before this moment.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

Bro. I just posted a meme about it 3 days ago

And I post from time to time about it, enough that some of the more prominent .ml users have started to take notice lmao

I've also been consistently for weeks now cross-posting a ton of fresh (non-tankie anyways) content to the relevant non-.ml communities, it's like the bulk of my posts rn lol

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 2 minutes ago)

That's nice, thanks for your posts