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jointhefediverse.net seems to be a commonly linked resource for directing people to join the Fediverse.

Curiously, it does not list Lemmy under the list of Reddit alternatives. Their GitHub README explains why.

Previous relevant discussion: https://lemmy.ml/post/78808

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 13 minutes ago* (last edited 12 minutes ago)

Valid concern imo, Dev's are just dickheads

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 hours ago

It’s just a random person that registered a domain. Be the change you want to see and make your own?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

Yeah watch out for that sotware

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 hours ago

It has mbin and piefed on the list, so it’s not harming the network at all. If anything it’s more healthy with more platforms rather than just ml and world. It’s one site directing people to the fedi, I’m not butthurt about it

[–] [email protected] 65 points 11 hours ago (5 children)

That feels like complaints about lemmy.ml specifically more than Lemmy as a software. There's a few instances that defederate lemmy.ml out there.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 minutes ago

How much effort do you think Meta, Twitter, and Reddit put into getting open social media people to fight against themselves?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

They can do whatever shit they want with their instance and believe whatever they want. The software they make provably doesn't have any more biases than any other software. As long as that's the case, I'm fine.

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[–] [email protected] 69 points 12 hours ago (56 children)

Lemmy was removed due to:

  • reports of how the developers handle certain types of content (post removed, view an incomplete archive)
  • the behavior of its creator
  • how the sotware itself handles users' privacy.

All valid concerns.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 14 minutes ago

No, they're not.

how the developers handle certain types of content

Doesn't matter if you stay away from .ml.

the behavior of its creator

Kind of valid, but open source and open license negates a lot of that.

how the sotware itself handles users’ privacy.

You think anything else on the Fediverse is better? When you post something publicly, it's public. Doesn't really matter what the software does. If you don't have End to End encryption, it's not private.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 15 minutes ago)

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

This is why I'm looking forward to Sublinks launching.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (2 children)

These concerns, and more, are why just today, during a conversation with some friends looking to get off traditional social media, I advised them to join pixelfed, peer tube, mastodon, and loops, but suggested they strictly avoid Lemmy.

The communities aren’t right for anyone who isn’t seeking something exactly like Lemmy or leftie-Reddit-lite. I don’t even really like it here all that much anymore. Not the content; the interactions… across all my accounts.. even joining “nicer” spaces is not a particularly nice or pleasant experience, plus the more interested is a woman, and Lemmy is a horrible sausagefest echo chamber not at all suited to a normal average woman person who isn’t techie. I’m techie, so I’m used to the vibe, but for your average cis-woman, Lemmy is a very very bad fit.

Bring on the downvotes if you like (the echo-chamber anti-voice sentiment is part of why people shouldn’t be recommended this platform, after all) but these are legit concerns for people who may want to join, and those of us already here can and do steer people elsewhere as a result.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 minutes ago

Lemmy is a horrible sausagefest echo chamber not at all suited to a normal average woman person who isn’t techie.

Far be it from me to point out this is exactly how reddit started.

The foundational promise of lemmy and the fediverse writ large is freedom from proprietary software and closed-protocols; the kind of people who are going to be interested in seeking out those types of alternatives are going to gravitate toward techy men.

It takes time for new social media sites to fan outward from their initial adopters, that's just how it goes.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Same honestly. I never discussed politics on Reddit, but it's all the content that's here. Partly why I don't recommend it to anyone i know who uses Reddit. Most content just isn't normie-friendly here.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago

It’s so depressing and aggressive, honestly. I can’t do that to my friends who don’t do that already.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 hours ago

The linked post given on the second point is a bit flimsy. It's basically saying that if you use evidence published by a person with shitty views, you must have them too. To me, that's absurd as claiming that referencing FBI statistics makes someone a federal agent.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 11 hours ago (12 children)

Point 1 and 2 really need to be addressed.

It would be so much better if lemmy wasn't developed by genocide white-washing tankies.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago

Makes sense to me.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

Nutomic and Dessalines may be tankies, but they're our tankies

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Not wrong lol. I dislike their behavior but still contribute code to lemmy.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 29 minutes ago

Same, I am very opposed to their views, but they make this platform, so I respect them as FOSS developers

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

They may be your tankis, but they sure arent our tankies.

They can fuck right off

[–] [email protected] 1 points 30 minutes ago (1 children)

They are literally developing the platform we are on. Sure, I don't agree with their opinion at all, but it doesn't mean I can't respect their work.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 19 minutes ago

Doing a pretty shit job at it.

I used to use reddit. Those devs made the same mistake, and I dont respect either.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago
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