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Is it bots? Are those humans whos mission is to cause chaos? Is the weird behaviour caused by the creation of the concept of lemmy?

Somebody please explain to me wtf is going on.

They answer destructive comments, assuming shit, demanding shit. Are they trolls?

Are they being paid for causing chaos? It’s insane

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 week ago (2 children)

All responsible server admins have them defederated. Hate speech and genocide denial, that is almost certainly against the law in Canada, Germany, and other places. We defederated lemmygrad for the same reason.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I specifically chose my instance because it’s not blocked or being blocked by too many instances.

I’d rather judge myself what I want to be exposed to.

I guess server admins who haven’t defederated them are either with them ORRR they put more responsibility towards their users.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago

Or they live in a country where genocide denial is legal. I live in Canada and my server is in Canada. I’m not willing to take the risk so my users can interact with assholes.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

I thought the same thing, but got worn down by the constant negativity and rage.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

In your instance' case, db0 has said IIRC that the Anarchists on Hexbear, while not aligning 100% with them, are generally good and worth being federated with.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

I did the same, that's why I ended up in lemm.ee. but after being exposed to hexbear, and in lesser extend to ml, I ended up blocking both.

I haven't seen hex users in a while, not sure if lemm.ee defederated. If so I'm really grateful.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There is an instance block feature you can use in the settings as a user, that seems to work pretty well for not seeing hexbear stuff

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

My instance is hosted in Germany and does not seem to defederate from hexbear, I'm subscribed to [email protected] from this account.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I’m sorry to hear that, you should fix that.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I don't want it to. I think instance admins should be defederating from spambot farms, but not much more than that; if there's a chance some of its users want to read it, they should allow its users to.

That is, I want my instance admins to engage in moderation, but not censorship. I think defederating from extremist politics (whether far-left or far-right) is usually censorship, not moderation.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago (2 children)

That's not what censorship means. As per defenderating from spambot farms... That's half of hexbear really

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

If that is so, I have yet to notice it in the wild.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You're going to have to be a bit more specific. What's what needs clarification?

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What do you mean "half of Hexbear is spambot farms?"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It seems pretty clear, I'm sorry I don't understand what needs further explaining.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It doesn't seem pretty clear at all, can you explain that?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If that's not clear already, I'm afraid I'm going to be incapable to dumb it down any further. Sorry!

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So you just make.claims and can't justify or prove them? Strange.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I asked you clarification on an absurd claim, and you called me dumb and claimed I'm sealioning. Why make the claim in the first place?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Hexbear isn't driven by real people, it's a politically-motivated, organized effort to spread disinformation.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So basically spambots are fine as long as they are spouting something political?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

That's the opposite of what they said.