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[–] [email protected] 108 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

It's so horrifying to considering "having parents with a home to go back to" an idea we're going to call a privilege.

Really has "society owes you nothing, you're lucky we didn't strangle you in the cradle" vibes.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That's how it is for an awful lot of people, I'm sure. I turned 18 and my dad said, "Get out." So I did.

I managed. I imagine others don't.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

How come? Did you have bad relationships with your parents?

[–] [email protected] 44 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Have you met people? A lot of parents are just shit. I feel lucky to have parents that I am still willing to communicate with.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 weeks ago

I am consistently amazed at the sheer number of parents who don't seem to care about their kids at all. And those are just the ones in my kids friend groups.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I did, it was horrible. Jokes aside, only heard about such things on the internet. Even in hardcore alcoholics/drug addicts families it never happens? Children can run away, but to boot them out on arbitrary date is weird.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's an outdated attitude. When I was in highschool I knew of a handful of classmates who were apartment hunting for their 18th birthday. Some parents thought it was best to get the kid out of the craddle as fast as possible so they could start facing the real world. Others, their parents hated being parents and wanted the kid out. Keep in mind that back then a highschool student with a decent part time job that gave over a dozen or so hours a week could just barely afford a starter apartment, but it was doable. Now that same job wouldn't be enough to cover the electricity bill. Today it's an incredibly heartless thing to do to a teenager.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

I mean it's not like you are stopping being family/relatives when children become adults. It would be extremely traumatizing if my parents just kicked me out next day after 18 birthday and we aren't even close and never were.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

You would be surprised. I know a couple people from my childhood, and one person recently who did that. Said it was the only way for them to learn to self sustain.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It’s also culture, some people truly think they’re responsibly as parents end at 18.

Some believe it’s when they leave the house.

Some believe it’s when they get married.

But we all know it’s definitely not the first one.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

It’s also culture, some people truly think they’re responsibly as parents end at 18.

That's not culture. That's ideology.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 weeks ago

unfortunately yes. people in your community who care for you in our current society is a privilege, not something that can be assumed. but all of us can pick up some of the slack. even if you can't give anything substantial to the homeless, you can give them a conversation. sitting and talking to a homeless person can do a lot to change their day, as well as helping you find perspective on how fragile all of the systems of care we have are

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago

You'd be luck to have a home to go back today in this society

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

The point of calling it privilege is simply to point out that your worldview is shaped by your upbringing. The fact that you have family and friends to rely on is inherently shaping the way you view the world in a way that may blind you to the struggles of those who don’t have the same support network.

It’s essentially “let them eat cake” in a new wrapper. If you’ve never struggled to put food on the table, being too poor to eat is an entirely foreign concept. So foreign, in fact, that you’ll potentially fail to even consider it as a factor if you hear someone doesn’t have food. You’ll default to assuming they must not have food due to some other reason. Likely a reason that lays the blame largely on the person in question. You’ll assume they spent all their money frivolously, because you can’t comprehend the fact that some people don’t have money to spend at all. Or you’ll assume that they’re lazy, because you can’t comprehend someone trying and still failing to eat. Or any other number of reasons. Regardless of the reason you think up, it will inherently be coming from a place of privilege.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah, I don't like calling what all people should get a 'privilege'. Conversely, we should point out that people of marginalised groups were treated badly by society, worse than they were entitled to.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, I don’t like calling what all people should get a ‘privilege’.

If all people don't get it it becomes a privilege. And one can make the argument that our society is actually run on privilege, and definitely not on the idea of rights.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Privilege was always supposed to mean "things you have that not everyone does". That includes everything from titles to housing to eyes

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That includes everything

If everything is a privilege, the term loses it's meaning. It just becomes a source of guilt rather than a recognition of social deficiency.

When I see the term used effectively, it is describing social conditions not biological conditions.

You're privileged to have an access to low interest credit that lets you buy a house, not the house itself. A country like South Africa or Cuba or France with universal credit (or better yet, universal housing) doesn't have this special privilege afforded to a subset of homeowners.

You're privileged to live in a neighborhood that caters to people with good vision (car culture, lots of signage for navigation, etc). A country like Japan or Russia, with urban infrastructure dedicated to alternative navigation, isn't specially privileged for the sightless.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

It's literally a tool for self reflection and for becoming aware of biases others may lack.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

Privilege is what we actually have (or don't have) instead of actually having "rights" or "freedoms."